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Posted by Ben McClintock, Wednesday, 06 Mar 2024.

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They now claim that if you believe we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights, that you are a radical, fringe, anti-American extremist. One thing that unites all of them, because there's many different groups orbiting Trump, but the thing that unites them as Christian nationalists, not Christians, by the way, because Christian nationalists.

Troy

Christian nationalists, Ben, not Christians. Because good Christians allow tyrannical governments to tell them what to do. Because Jesus said, turn the other cheek, Ben.

Ben McClintock

You have two different things that you can look at. You can say, okay, does the president have those powers within the Constitution? Are those powers that are delegated to him? The answer is clearly no. No, he doesn't. But you have historical precedents and you have illegal laws. What the Founding Fathers in the Declaration of Independence called pretend legislation. Ever since 9-11, we have these declarations of emergency where the president assumed powers that he didn't have.

And then you have historical presidents under former tyrants that they did. There have been presidents in the past that have arrested journalists that were reporting stories that he didn't like.

Troy

Hi, Ben. Welcome back to the program. How are you doing?

Ben McClintock

Fantastic. Thanks for having me back.

Troy

All right. Do I look happy to you?

Ben McClintock

You look ecstatic.

Troy

I woke up this morning just being bombarded with ideological hogwash from… my wife sends me things on messenger that she'll be watching on the phone and she knows, she'll go, Oh, Troy probably wants to see this.

Ben McClintock

This will trigger Troy.

Troy

This will trigger Troy and then he'll go make a video out of anger. So this is an angry rant video. I was, I'm editing something else, getting ready to put it up. It's not an angry rant. It's an, it's a call to repentance. I know I'm not, I'm who am I? Right. I'm, I'm a little old. That's why I think Rush Limbaugh, I'm starting to understand what he meant. I'm no Rush Limbaugh. You know, I know that I'm a little old Latter-day Saint podcaster in the wilderness, a cute little fuzz ball, right? That is calling to people to repentance. I've had, I talked to you today on the phone this morning. I'm getting reels. And for instance, I don't know if this is a deep fake, but Biden slips up. Did you see that? Where he slips up.

Ben McClintock

I've seen [untelligible] slips up. I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Troy

Did you know Biden slipped up on something? Yeah.

Ben McClintock

What?!? I'm shocked.

Troy

And I'm not talking about him tripping on the airplane stairs. I'm talking about.

What do you call the airplane stairs? There's a name for it.

Ben McClintock

Is there? I don't, I have no idea.

Troy

The tarmac. I don't know. Um, the tarmac is the place out there where the planes go or you walk on the, anyway, shut up, Troy.

Ben McClintock

They're called stairs, airplane stairs.

Troy

Yeah. Okay. So he's saying in a speech, I don't know if this is a deep fake or not, but it, it, it makes, but it's circulating around. Where he's talking about the houses on fire in Chile. Or was it Lahaina? I know there's a fire in Chile and there's other fires going on all over Texas, I think.

I yanked a video down because nobody cared. And then I had comments saying, do some more investigation. There's other fires going on too. So I'm like, I don't have time. I've got so many other things going on. But I believe it. All right. So Biden slips up on this. Let me show you this.

Ben McClintock

Yeah. Oh, there's, there's good old Joe. Yeah.

Troy

All right. Listen to this.

Biden

Because a lot of, if you fly over these areas that are burned to the ground, you'll see in the midst of 20 homes that are just totally destroyed, one home sitting there because it's got the right roof on it.

Troy

Did you hear that? One home sitting there because it had the right roof on it.

Biden

…totally destroyed, one home sitting there because it had the right roof on it.

Troy

Okay, that could be a blunder of him or that could be a deep fake. I don't know.

Ben McClintock

Or it could be a blunder meaning he let it slip on accident, but you're not supposed to know. It'd be interesting to see if the houses in Chile that weren't burnt were blue houses as much as they were in Hawaii. It'd be interesting to see.

Troy

Right. So that's just one thing, Ben. The other thing is I get in an argument with a good friend of mine who's a member of the church. And I'm not going to say who it is yet because some of you know who it is. But maybe later we'll get into that. Give me a few days. He doesn't have a problem coming on and debating me even. I'm not a debater. I'm an idiot. Okay, we all know Troy. Everyone knows Troy is a complete imbecile.

This is what information does in my brain. You see how debris gets caught up in these branches and trees. That's what it looks like when my brain processes information. But I have little guys in my brain that go and get all that debris out and they throw it back in the river and it eventually floats down somewhere. Then you guys get to pick through and find all the shiny things.

I connect with people out here because there are people. Look, I'm not dumb, but I'm not articulate. Does that make sense?

Ben McClintock

Fair enough. Yeah.

Troy

All right. You can be smart. You can have smarts and not know how to spit it out. Okay. I've met lots of people that are smart that are, appear to be dumb as rocks, but they're not. They just can't spit it out. Okay. And that's me. Here's my point. I had a point.

So I'm getting, and I get in this debate, but I feel like God was guiding me because this member of the church, and I've heard this by others, and I told you this, Ben, there are people that believe that China is a good government, and we're talking members of the church. I heard today, well, let me, okay, I'll get to it, sorry, but China is a good government. And I'm getting in an argument with this brother. That's a member of the church who is older than me, older than me. Okay. But I'm noticing a lot of these Seventies teenagers, people that were teenagers in the Seventies, a lot of them are spineless.

I'm not talking about the boomers from the Sixties even because they're kind of all, they kind of went either way, but then you had Seventies boomers and they're just lost. Okay. But 80s, we were Wolverines, Red Dawn, you know, Reagan. The Cold War was coming back, you know, from the 50s. And we were, that was, the economy was booming. And we were, we were not like neocons today. We were real conservatives, most of us.

Now the ones that raised babies that, there are Gen Xers that are kind of like Millennials that raised, uh, that helicopter babies.

Ben McClintock

On the tail end, yeah.

Troy

And those helicopter babies have blue and pink hair today, but here's the deal. Here's what I'm getting at. Okay. I get in an argument with this brother and I've heard this from other members of the church. But China's great, right? Communism, because those people are different than us. You've heard that before, that they're not used to the same Western economy that we are. And they're happy and content. And I just said, oh, yeah, with being arrested when they speak out against the government.

Ben McClintock

Being in forced abortions. Everyone loves to have forced abortions.

Troy

But everything I would bring up, he'd go, well, I know they made a mistake there. Oh, my gosh. The one child, was it two children or one child?

Ben McClintock

One child policy, yeah.

Troy

The one child policy. But, you know, our government's not perfect.

Ben McClintock

You look up the government prisoners, where they have their chains, they've been chained so tight for many years that their skin starts to wrap around the chains themselves. I mean, everybody makes mistakes. You know, Tiananmen Square in the late 80s, everybody makes mistakes.

Troy

Right.

Ben McClintock

Now, killing hundreds of millions of Chinese, everybody makes mistakes.

Troy

Well, I agreed with him about our western, he goes, well, our government's not perfect. I go, no doubt, no doubt but it's the people we're allowing to run it, that's what makes it not perfect.

Ben McClintock

And this isn't like an either/or, like if I hate China I have to love the United States, you know, government right, that's a ridiculous, you know, conflation.

Troy

Well and how many people come, how many people are trying, I don't see a bunch of people trying to get into China unless they live in North Korea, okay?

Ben McClintock

Right.

Troy

No, serious. If they live in North Korea, China is like paradise.

Ben McClintock

That's how bad North Korea is.

Troy

Yeah. Yeah. So, but I do see people trying to get into the United States.

Ben McClintock

Yeah.

Troy

Right? And, and I kept bringing up different arguments to this brother. Okay. And then we got into the war in heaven and he said, I said, well, the war in heaven was fought because of agency. And he literally said, well, we could, we can have an argument about that. That, that, that's a. I'm like, what? He never told me what it was fought over. We have yet to get to that, but this is what's going on in our world. This is what's going on in our, these are some of the members of the church that we deal with.

So then I get, this is all this morning, Ben. And then I see this right here. Let me show you.

Video

They now claim that if you believe we are endowed by our creator with certain unalienable rights, that you are a radical, fringe, anti-American extremist.

One thing that unites all of them, because there's many different groups orbiting Trump, but the thing that unites them as Christian nationalists, not Christians, by the way, because Christian nationalists.

Troy

Christian nationalists, Ben, not Christians, because good Christians allow tyrannical governments to tell them what to do, because Jesus said turn the other cheek, Ben.

Ben McClintock

Oh yeah

Troy

Okay?

Video

…list is very different is that they believe that our rights as Americans as all human beings don't come from any earthly authority, they don't come from congress they don't come from the supreme court, they come from God.

Can you imagine these Christian nationalists, and I'm, I'm not quite sure how this casting session went, I assume it was that the executives at NBC, they said, okay, we need someone to come on and do a segment on Christianity, religion, natural law, political philosophy, and American history. And then this lady raised her hand and she said, well, I don't know anything at all about any of those things. And the NBC producer said, oh, you're perfect. All right, well, let's get you on. You're hired. They now claim that if you believe we are endowed by our Creator—

Troy

All right, so. There it is. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights. Among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. You are now a radical.

Ben McClintock

That Christian nationalist document, the Declaration of Independence, that's so crazy.

Troy

What do you think about this, Ben?

Ben McClintock

The lady's a psychopath. They want you to believe, they want it to be normalized that your rights come from Congress or from some body of men, so that way they can claim to legitimately take away your rights. Because that's what it means. If a person gives out rights, if an earthly individual gives out rights, that means anything they give or take away is legitimate. And so it's the only way that they can implement tyranny is if they make you think—it's radical and extreme—to believe that you got your rights from government and that government's role, according to the Declaration of Independence, that extremist document, the Declaration, says that government's sole role is to protect those God-given governments and that when government becomes destructive of those ends, it is our duty and obligation to alter or abolish that government.

So they have to get rid of that mindset so that you believe that whatever the government does is legitimate and that you're an extremist, a dangerous person, if you want to be able to preserve what God gave you and what you fought for to get a body in the first place.

Troy

Well, it was key. There was one thing that they said that resonated with me that made so much sense, and it was the woman raising her hand. I know he was being sarcastic.

Ben McClintock

The puppet, yeah, yeah.

Troy

Right. And, and I firmly believe, and I pointed this out to Andrea because then we saw something from The View and I'll show you guys in a second. We'll talk about that. This was all this morning and right after I got back from seminary and I'm like—

Ben McClintock

Boom, boom, boom.

Troy

I can't stand it anymore. Okay. I talked to this brother. I then all of a sudden, all of these things. Right. And I said, they're right. These producers don't want people on there that think. Because even if there was a person that said, I'm intelligent, I'm educated, and the producer's like, yes, you are. And they go, but I can act woke. I can act left. They don't want that either. Because they might slip up and be intelligent. So they really do want people that don't know what they're doing. And so that comes to The View. They are modern day Marie Antoinette's. And let's go to that.

Whoopi Goldberg

Let's look at a scenario where the Supreme Court says, yes, he has that. He has all those rights. He is immune from everything. You know what Joe Biden could do since he is presently president? What? Whoa. He could throw every Republican in jail.

Brandon Tatum

Whoopi Goldberg's just gone crazy.

Troy

Okay, so... You can't throw everybody in jail that's a Republican.

Ben McClintock

Not legitimately, anyway.

Troy

But that doesn't make any sense anyway, because some of the Republicans they like, they love neocons.

Ben McClintock

Oh, they love Mitt Romney and John McCain.

Troy

Right.

Ben McClintock

And Dick Cheney.

Troy

And she knows that. But she's talking about "White Christian nationalists." Not even White anymore. They're talking about Christian nationalists. See this man right here? He's a conservative. Brandon Tatum. He loves Trump. I don't know much about him, but he would be considered a White Christian nationalist today. Right?

Ben McClintock

Yeah.

Troy

Because a lot of the Black constituency of Trump is now speaking out against the left. Most of them are Black males that are in that Black community. What are they going to do with them? They have to group them with us. You know what I mean? They have to group them.

Ben McClintock

It's like when Biden said the last election cycle that you're not Black if you like Trump.

Troy

Right. Right. Right. Right. And what does that do? Because most Black people have uh Judeo-Christian values, they were raised with that, and so they never knew really why they were voting Democrat but they were told over and over again. Now, I know, Ben, you're like, I don't, I'm not Democrat, Republican, any, I'm not, either, anymore. By the way, I'm a Constitutionalist, whatever that means, I'm a freedom lover.

Ben McClintock

Yeah.

Troy

And now it's bad to love freedom, but anyway let's go on, because I want you to see, uh, so we are reacting to a reaction video right now. So I'm reacting to a reactor.

Ben McClintock

Inception.

Troy

Right.

Brandon Tatum

The craziest thing I've ever heard her say by far.

Troy

Okay, let me go forward here where he starts talking.

Brandon Tatum

This is the craziest thing I've ever heard. Not only is the craziest, it's the stupidest, and it's also untrue.

Troy

Can you hear it?

Brandon Tatum

Whoopi Goldberg should be ashamed of herself for what she said in this video. And I don't want to hear nothing about anybody saying that there's Republicans on The View. It does not exist. It is insane to me that these women will talk over other people, yell them out of the room. Whoopi ran off the stage one time. I forgot who she brought on. She ran off the stage, Judge Jeanine Pirro. She ran off the stage in a bad, cussing and acting a fool. And she said something this ridiculous, and not one person checked her on it. Not one person on the, not the Republicans, nobody checked her.

Troy

All right. Let me get to what she says. Hold on. Because these are the dumb people that we were talking about. Okay. Not one of these women on the, on The View have common sense. And it is by design because if they did have somebody on the left that did have common sense, that person, because most smart people, I told this to, I said this to Andrea. Most intelligent people, even if they're on the left, you can't go very long playing dumb when you are intelligent because there's an ego thing. You don't want to come across that way. So these women have to literally be dumb to be on there. I'm sorry if that's offending anyone.

Who was Marie Antoinette, by the way? She was known to be very naive. They don't know if, so in history, the French Revolution. Do you know anything about the French Revolution?

Ben McClintock

I know a lot about the French Revolution, but not much about Marie specifically.

Troy

Okay, so what was the French Revolution? It was basically against the elites, the elites against the poor, right?

Ben McClintock

There's a great book called The Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism. The Jacobins were the ones behind the French Revolution, and they were basically expanding upon Adam Weishaupt's mission that he started in Germany. And so they were getting rid of any of the opposition and leadership that, you know, and beheading people in religious circles and getting rid of anybody that believed in God. So basically what we see today is exactly what the French Revolution was all about, but it was under the guise of freedom. And so they had to get, they were getting rid of anybody that was a threat to their tyrannical order.

Troy

Okay. And then we don't know much about Marie Antoinette and her husband that were beheaded.

Ben McClintock

Right.

Troy

We, some say that they were innocent, that they were like the, when I say innocent, I mean, they weren't a part of this.

Ben McClintock

Probably not. That's why, that's why they wer beheaded.

Troy

The Jacobins were pointing to them and saying, there's your real enemy. There's the tyrants. And then Marie Antoinette and her husband, they were just throwing parties and living lavishly and were disconnected. They weren't necessary, but they were maybe puppets even. We don't know.

Ben McClintock

Very similar to what happened in Cuba with Fidel Castro and the individuals that were there before is that they were pointed out as this corrupt regime. And that Castro was nothing but a freedom fighter. You had the New York times, of course.

Troy

Iraq or Iran also.

Ben McClintock

Yeah.

Troy

The, the Shah, the Shah, same thing.

Ben McClintock

And so they get rid of the old order and bring in the new order and, Oh, Oh my goodness. We had no idea that they were such bad people. Like it was obvious.

Troy

Right. Yeah. And then, so the reason I say Marie Antoinette, because she is supposedly stereotypically portrayed as someone that was very disconnected. Didn't know what was going on. And it's possible she didn't. But making statements like let them eat cake. She was asked what do we do with the poor. And apparently. And I think that's a wive's tale. I don't know if she said it or not. But apparently she was like that. Where she was so disconnected from real people that she said let them eat cake. Oh, they didn't have bread. The poor do not have bread. So apparently she said, well, let them eat cake.

Ben McClintock

Let them eat cake.

Troy

If they don't have bread, let them eat cake then. Anyway, but we, I don't know. We don't know. But she was disconnected. We know that. So here is…

Ben McClintock

And that's what they do is the, is the conspiracy uses legitimate qualms and complaints of the lower class and uses it as an excuse, a launch pad to be able to implement their, their tyranny.

Troy

Right. Yeah. So here are a group of women that I thought that came to my mind is this is modern day Marie Antoinette-ism.

Whoopi Goldberg

Brandon Tatum

How was she reading off a piece of paper? So I'm hoping, God, somebody didn't slip and the bag of crack fell down their throat and they were high when they wrote this. He could put every Republican in jail. What does that even mean? The president do not have the authority to arrest people.

Troy

He doesn't. But here's my point. That's all I really wanted to show you here. Well, no, that's not what I want.

Ben McClintock

I want to know what she's reading, too. That's hilarious.

Troy

Here, let's go right here. But here, here, what I do want to say is they're always claiming that Trump is a guy that we need to be careful to start arresting, like a Gestapo-type situation, but they're okay with a Gestapo-type scenario with, uh…

Ben McClintock

Yeah, they're not against Gestapos. They're only against Gestapos against them.

Troy

Right. Which Trump has no, uh, I know you have your own ideas, but I'm just saying Ben doesn't trust anyone. And I'm not saying there's not some foundation there, but my point is that Gestapoism is Gestapoism, no matter what it comes from, where it comes from, and whether it's from the right or left. You go to other countries in Central America and South America, and they have parties that we don't even understand. Political parties, right? They don't have the same issues and the same, uh…

Ben McClintock

Completely different mindset.

Troy

…social ills, and and the economy, everything is different, right, so you don't understand the parties there until you live there, then you're like, oh, this is why you're in this party, this is why you're in this party. Yeah, okay.

Whoopi Goldberg

Yeah. I mean he could. I mean no, no, no, this is not a good thing. he can go… what this means…

White Lady

President, what-have-you, what is their motivation for not doing it right away?

Black Lady

Unfortunately, some people are saying the motivation is that there are certain conservative justices that have been appointed by Trump that want to help him. And because we know the end result is if this case is not resolved by the time of the election and he, God forbid, becomes the president of the United States, the Justice Department policy is that you cannot indict nor put on trial a sitting president, right, and so it's his get out of jail free card.

Troy

Okay,so anyway, idiots, right? She's supposed to be the smarter one in the group.

Ben McClintock

Who, Whoopi?!?

Troy

No, the other lady.

Ben McClintock

Oh, the other one that was talking, okay, yeah.

Troy

So, anyway, I want to say something that I want, I want your words but I guess my point for showing that is A) I don't understand how somebody can live with themselves knowing that they literally have people like her, the smart one, I guess, go up there and make sense when it's not making sense, but will force the narrative to try to make sense of it to the public, to the people sitting in the audience.

Ben McClintock

Right.

Troy

And you notice that the end, or the conclusion of everything, they could say a lot of words, salad, throw out all this word salad, but the end, the conclusion of everything they have to say is not founded on anything of truthful or, or substantial. Does that make sense?

Ben McClintock

Right. Yeah.

Troy

It ends with a poo poo or get out of jail free card.

Ben McClintock

There's some platitude that means nothing.

Troy

Right. So anyway, what do you think about all this that I've been ranting about?

Ben McClintock

Well, this last one specifically, I mean, just, You have two different things that you can look at. You can say, okay, does the president have those powers within the Constitution? Are those powers that are delegated to him? The answer is clearly no. No, no, he doesn't. But you have historical precedents and you have illegal laws, what the Founding Fathers in the Declaration of Independence called pretend legislation. You have ever since 9-11, we have these declarations of emergency where the president assumed powers that he didn't have. And then you have historical precedents under, you know, former tyrants that they did. There have been presidents in the past that have arrested uh, what's, uh, you know, journalists that were reporting stories that he didn't like.

And so you, you have precedents that, you know, that might be what she's going off of, of, of former tyrants and, and then saying, Hey, why doesn't my president arrest people I don't like? And so, and then we have the emergency powers under 9/11 that, uh, you know, that he can act like a tyrant if he wants to. And so, you know, they, they're. A lot of times they only do things where they can only go so far, because like we saw in 2020 and 2021, where when the government really stepped outside of its bounds, people started to wake up and they recognize that. And so they don't normally go full tyrant because they think, you know, because they realize that there's only so much they can get away with. And so, you know, is it on paper somewhere like her, her note card, that it could happen? I mean, you know, it hasn't, wouldn't be the first time.

Troy

OK.

Ben McClintock

But it's not within the delegated powers in the Constitution at all.

Troy

Well, it's the reason I brought that up, all of that, because a lot of it wasn't even... It doesn't look related until I say this, right? So I kind of just threw up, vomited a bunch of...

Ben McClintock

Well, it's all connected to one big whole, for sure.

Troy

…things that were bothering me. And I think the main thing is tyranny. But the other thing is, where did Christian nationalism get a... did it, when did that start getting a bad rap, like when you, you were talking to me earlier and you mentioned Obama. Are you trying to be careful? You're like…

Ben McClintock

No! No!

Troy

…you should be careful about—

Ben McClintock

During the Obama administration, the Homeland Security put out a report claiming that people with, that fixated on the Constitution, fixated on the Constitution, heaven forbid, had food storage, were military veterans, supported Ron Paul. Those were people that were considered potentially domestic terrorists.

And so that kind of a thing has been going on for… for a long, long time. I don't remember personally, but I remember reading newspaper articles after the assassination of John F. Kennedy, where the mainstream media was blaming, again, constitutionalists for the assassination because they were calling him out for his unconstitutional activities.

And so by calling out the president, you are therefore complicit or an accomplice to his death. And so this... All of this, if you don't like this person that died, that means you're a part of the people that killed them. False associations has been going on for a long, long time. And Christian nationalism, people that say that or the masses that hear that, don't even know what that means. What are you even trying to say by that?

Troy

We have an author that I had on that talked about Ezra Taft Benson and the apostles not getting along, and he's writing, now, a book about White Christian nationalism and tying that in with the church and Utah calling them basically White Mormon nationalists or White Christian Latter-day Saint nationalists.

Ben McClintock

Right.

Troy

And I'm like, what does that mean? I even asked them, most of these people, and even this author, I believe, was sheltered growing up coming from a nice White, middle/upper middle-class, uh, family in Utah or Idaho, uh, that, where they didn't have friends. I grew up with Black friends, Mexican friends, Chinese friends, I had all kinds of friends. I live in California, you lived in California, you know what I'm talking—you grew up in California. So, we hear people from Utah that are, that have Mormon guilt, that grew up in a very conservative Mormon family, their parents loved Ezra Taft Benson, and this author talks about growing up with his dad saying, what would Benson do? You know?

Ben McClintock

Yeah.

Troy

Yeah. What would Benson do? Growing up like that. And then what they do is they rebel. And then they become leftist college professors. And fight against whatever their parents raised them with. That's the hippie generation. You know, their parents were World War II people that loved America, and they rebelled against that in the late 60s, the boomers. And that's what's going on all over again, times 10, though. Neo-Marxism has penetrated our government horribly. What do we do? Is the Constitution dead, Ben?

Ben McClintock

I've mentioned this before.

Troy

I know, and I want you to say it again.

Ben McClintock

In 1844, at the death of the Prophet Joseph, you know, that, well, leading up to his death and the creation of the Council of Fifty and the Kingdom of God, Joseph himself was saying that, as he's running for president, that the United States has apostatized from the Constitution. And it's our role, right now, is to find a place outside of the United States where we can live according to the principles of the Constitution because the United States has rejected them. And that's exactly what the Council of Fifty and the Quorum of the Twelve said after the death of Joseph. Brigham Young saying that, you know, we have no intent of going under any other government except for the government of God as we leave the United States, because the Constitution was, at that point a, you know, in the United States of 1887, even though, you know, by name, just, it's kind of like trans— uh the trans movement, is just because you call something something doesn't mean it's that thing. And, um, the United States was no longer the United States of 18— of 1787. And so they felt they had to flee. And I agree with them completely.

Troy

Yeah. Like I said, brothers and sisters, I am not a wordy person. But I know what I feel. I know what I think. And there's lots of people out there like me as well that we know what's right and what's wrong. You don't have to be a rocket scientist, right? That's an old saying. You don't have to be a genius to know when something is wrong.

Ben McClintock

Right.

Troy

Right? All right, brother. Thank you so much.

Ben McClintock

Hey, thank you. Great to be with you.

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