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Unlawful Raid UPDATE - Satanic Ritual Abuse

Posted by Ben McClintock, Friday, 08 Dec 2023.

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Update on the "no knock raid."


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You know, they blocked my, the same sheriff's department blocked my driveway with a DUI checkpoint so that I couldn't leave my house or go home without having to be harassed by the sheriff's department for an entire weekend. And so, and then you have the attempted kidnapping of my daughter through a completely falsified affidavit from the local CPS. That was after I exposed them and put out the guy's phone number and name. Then he calls me up and says, oh, we dropped all the charges. And so, and then the judge that signed the warrant, the illegal warrant, unconstitutional warrant, his wife is a lawyer for CPS. So yeah, uh, I was just scolded.

I don't know if you saw my interview with Matt Harris. I haven't had a chance yet. Okay. Just real quick. Matt Harris is a, an author. He's a liberal. You told me about him, about the interview. Yeah. He's a Latter-day Saint, but he has documents. He has journal entries.

He has, uh, autobiographies. He's got, uh, uh, meetings, minute meetings, meeting minutes and, uh, letters that they write to each other. So he's got factual things, but he adds bias to it. Right. If that makes sense. It's conclusions that are bogus. It's not, the data is not bogus. Exactly. Exactly.

Inconclusion. And he adds a lot of idioms like, you know, and Benson let the cat out of the bag and Hubie Brown couldn't stand so-and-so, you know, it's just, you don't know that. Brown and Benson did hate each other. Oh, absolutely.

They used to be friends. Did you get the text I sent you about the, uh, I've got a journal entry where, uh, Benson's kid was talking about Hubie Brown and getting his daughter an abortion. Yeah. Is that, is that real? The, uh, hold on. Sorry. Like, is that a, is that, does that come from a firsthand source? It comes from Benson's son.

Wow. Wow. Well, there it is there folks. So I did a, so I have Joel Skousen sent me an email and he, he scolded me. He, he gave me a, a, a very good thorough flashing. Oh yeah. For what? Bad boy. Bad boy. For not defending.

Well, I, cause I sat there and I'm being a good guest, just letting him get it out. I agreed with his scholarship. Okay. Cause I'm not going to just say he's full of crap. Cause he's not, he was full of crap on his bias remarks about why things happen. But Benson's like, you should have defended or not Benson. Uh, Joel's like, you should have defended McCarthy. Instead of placating to the fact that maybe McCarthy was, uh, I didn't say anything really bad on all. I just said is he died of alcoholism, but I did.

I don't know. He might've been murdered, frankly, but here's the thing. I don't have a stance yet on McCarthy. So I'm not going to just defend something. I don't, I think that McCarthy did kind of go commie crazy though. Calling people communists that shouldn't have been coming called communists, but that doesn't mean that they're not, but Nona papers. No. So in the nineties, you know, after the fall of the, you know, Soviet union air quotes, um, the Soviet union released what was called the Venona papers.

And it basically just, it was a data dump of just thousands upon thousands of pages of who they had as agents within the United States government. And so with those released documents, the only thing that McCarthy was wrong about is that he underestimated it. Are you kidding me? Dead serious. Okay. Then I was wrong. Then I'm dead wrong. Not wrong.

You live and learn. That's why I'm a host and I'm not the most knowledgeable guy, but I have everybody with the info and I bring you all together and, and it makes a beautiful, uh, masterpiece. So yeah, that's hard. You can't know everything. That's, that's for dang sure. It's impossible. So maybe he succumbed to, to he, he, he was, uh, he was conflicted that he wasn't able to, save some, uh, cause he saw how bad it got. And he was just like, I'm just being attacked.

And so he was just like, just drink the pain away. I'm sure he was an alcoholic for sure, but there are, there's some, there's some funny business about some things around his death. So he could have been murdered, could have been alcohol poisoning. Uh, but he was definitely kind of trying to drink the pain away for sure. Interesting. Well, uh, Joel, I'm scared cause Joel's coming on the 14th and you, I'm just going to let him know, I'm still learning. Okay. No, for sure.

And we all are. Hopefully he's going to flog me publicly. He sent me an email on my satanic ritual abuse episode, which I felt was ridiculous because he says, like he inaccurately said, I left out the part where, you know, these people, they, um, you know, they're what's it called? Some of it has come out through a therapist doing regressed memory. And I pointed that out and I said, there are some stories that are probably false, but as Glenn Pace and the member of the presenting Bishop Rick said, there are too many people that are unrelated that tell the same story to be able to dismiss it. He says that it's, there's, there's something there, there.

And so, you know, I, there's a lot of things that I disagree on, on, uh, scousing on. So, you know, well, and, and, and we don't, we don't, uh, I mean, it's natural for all of us to not agree on everything. Right. That's human nature. I think we would be robotic if we all agree on everything, but we love you, Joel. And we're thankful that you're watching us. Now I'm scared. Now I know you're watching every move I make. Hey, come on.

We don't believe in big government. What are you doing? No, I'm playing. I always feel like. If you're not doing anything wrong, you got nothing to worry about. Right. Somebody's watching me. Okay. Anyway, Joel's coming on. I love you.

I respect you and God bless you. All right. Now, what the heck, dude, can you give us a, a brief, you want to do an intro or we already started? Well, we're going to talk about your raid. Yeah. So can you first, before you get into that, unless you have something else you want to say, can you give us a brief summary of what you said before? What give just a brief, like what's going on and then give us your followup. Cause you have a followup story, right?

You have updates on what's going on. Updates from the original report. Correct. So, so you want the background of like, what, like all the different things that happened up to this, like previous years or just like, just, just the raid. Well, what, what you, what you covered in the first video and, and they can see the video on your website and they can see it on my website, which is the last dispensation page, the last dispensation page.com. Or you could go to Ben McClintock's tree of Liberty society.com and watch it. Okay.

You, whatever you want to talk. I mean, however you want to, uh, tackle this. Sure. So there's, I guess there's a lot, there's, there's some backstory. So encourage you to, for the whole things that way we don't just get into all of the, just kind of sneak peek, right? We'll just, uh, you can learn about the arsons or maybe the possible arson and, uh, kidnapping and all that kind of stuff. If you go give them a sneak peek to go look at the, at the other video, but on a Monday, so I had a busy week this week.

Um, this is Monday, the 27th. I'm sorry. The 25th of, um, of November. Oh no, wait, that's December. Sorry. I'm looking at the wrong calendar to remember what it was the 27th. Yeah. It was the 28 that you were rated. I corrected. It's the 27th.

Oh, okay. Okay. Gotcha. At 6 PM. I'm sorry. Around 6 PM the 27th and, um, I'm leaving, you know, I go to the front of my house and I go out to my car and, um, try to grab something. And as I'm leaving, getting out of my car, I'm, I look down the road and I'm like, I see just like 15 to 20 SWAT guys, guys, and they're full on, uh, bulletproof vests. They're AR 15s and they're running down the street and coming towards, you know, onto the sidewalk.

And I'm like, holy smokes. Are they coming after, you know, is there something going on down here? And they're rushing over here to tell me to go inside. And then all of a sudden they're like, do you live here? And I'm like, holy cow, this isn't about somebody else. They're after me. And, um, and so the guy just keeps on asking me about that. And he, he says, we've got a warrant to, to search your house. I'm like, search my house for, for what? And, and he says, we're, you know, for a, a, a drug lab, you guys are manufacturing, um, marijuana dab, which if anybody doesn't know, that's highly concentrated, um, marijuana kind of oils that, uh, kind of greasy stuff that is just like the leaf times a million basically is from, from, from what I understand.

Extracted basically. It's not my, it's not my thing. So I don't know a whole lot about it, but that's my understanding. And, um, and so I'm like, this is, this is insane. You're, you're joking. Right. And he's like, no, um, it was reported that you have a hose coming out of your window. I'm like, I have a hose coming out my window. And so that's enough to get you a, a, a warrant. Cause he didn't, at the time I didn't know.

So later on, I find out this is a no knock warrant. So if I wasn't outside, I was inside with my kids, right? I've got, I've got nine kids. I've got, uh, seven of them live at home from the age of two to, uh, to 17 and they were home. And so if I wasn't outside, what would have happened was they would have busted down the door unannounced and anything could have happened because you know, this, this is a regular thing, right? There are people that not knowing what is going on, they defend their family. And so, and then they get shot and killed. And these, this team and the detective in charge has a history of violent encounters with the public.

And so with that guy's history, with the stuff that just happens in general, in that circumstance, it could have gone south very quickly. And so we were very much blessed that, uh, the Lord inspired me to go outside when he did, uh, to prevent that type of situation happening. And so based solely on the idea that there's, well, this is what he's told me. Uh, they won't allow me to get an affidavit that goes along that, uh, with the warrant that explains everything that they've done. They said that I've had to file the Utah version of a freedom of information act request to get the information that they had that, uh, supposedly gave the judge the, the rights to, uh, give this no knock warrant on me, which we're going to get into in a second as well.

But, um, and so because of this hose is what he told me is the reason why they were able to, to get the warrant and believe that we had this, uh, this whole operation of drug production in my home. So, you know, don't, don't have a hose coming out your, your, your window because, you know, make sure that your dryer vent isn't loose and hanging out in the wind because that, uh, that could be, uh, grounds for, for a warrant to, uh, surprise you with a no knock warrant to invade your house and, and, uh, shake things up. And so we were outside. And so I was like, that's insane. I have a 3d printer and to exhaust the fumes from the 3d printer.

I have a hose with a fan that blows out the fumes. And he's like, okay, well, let me search. Let me look. And I'm like, whatever, hopefully this will, you guys have a bunch of AR 15s on me. It's basically comply or die. So there's no pushback from you. You're not, you're not telling them, no, you, you can't come in or anything like that. Right. So I'm like, okay, fine, whatever. You know, that that's not a whole lot of options in that situation.

And so I walk them to the room where the, through the 3d printer is and where the, where the window has the, the hose coming out of it and he checks it and he checks things out. He's like, okay, have a good night. And they just leave. And as they're walking out, you know, these guys and they're full on military gear, uh, walk out, tell my kids, they're like, Hey, we're not really bad guys. You know, as they're walking out the door to these kids that they've just terrified. And so, um, the, the warrant itself has list one of my child that children that don't even live at home as living there. And it gives, he's 20 years old, but it gives his date of birth as if he was eight months old.

And so they can't even get the data on the warrant. Correct. And, um, and then as you go through it, um, as you read the warrant, it is just, um, states things as a matter of fact, they say, uh, the warrant says that I, I meaning the, uh, the detective and satisfied that there is probable cause to believe yada, yada, yada, all of these different things that are going on. All of these, all of this drug paraphernalia, a lab, ventilators, chemicals, heaters, marijuana plants with various stages of growth, all because of a hose sticking out my window, uh, TH form of THC dab components of a clandestine lab, including glass beakers and jars, butane chemicals, burners, ovens, camp stoves.

Um, and then it goes through and says, because I have probable cause, I have the right to search, uh, any item in the home that can contain or conceal illegal controlled substances, a precursor to drug chemicals and paraphernalia, including the garage storage sheds, outbuildings, window wells, bedrooms, home, dry storage. Yeah. I mean, just, it is totally broad. It's like anything that we think that this stuff could be hidden in, we've got a warrant to search. And so, um, a lawyer actually reached out to me afterwards and said, you know, this is crazy, but to be fair, you know, most of the time when he talks to clients, he says that, uh, he only gets about a third of the story.

He's like, can I look at the warrant? And so I'm said, sure. So I sent him a copy of the warrant. Let me ask you this real quick. Is this a sheriff or is this police city police? Is this county sheriff? County sheriff. This is county. How big is the town you live in? Uh, 60, 70,000.

Okay. About the size of Hanford where I live. Okay. So marijuana isn't like, uh, people smoke it. It's not any big. It's legal, right? You can actually do it in the state of Utah with a permit. Nothing to cause some crap like this. Okay. Go ahead.

Go ahead. And so I send the, uh, the warrant to the lawyer and he sends me an email afterwards. He says the warrant on its face is facially overboard. He says that he goes through and says that it's, um, all of the things that it says are completely illegal because it's so broad. And then he sent me this case, um, that says that it's basically, they broke the law with the warrant. Um, and so there's this case from 19, I mean, 2009, uh, from the 10th circuit court where he goes through and with the, this court, the, the judge that the panel of judges in the 10th district court, um, explained why the warrant in this case was unconstitutional.

And it was because it was too broad. It didn't list the specific things to be searched and the specific things to be seized. My warrant, excuse me, my warrant. And then the warrant in this case were, uh, basically the same saying that anything that we think that might have something, we have the right to search and to seize, which is blatantly a violation of the fourth amendment. And so, and so this isn't my opinion. This is the court's opinion. This is this lawyer's opinion. Uh, this is a, anybody that knows how to read the constitution's opinion.

Uh, the warrant itself was illegal. Uh, the actions were outrageous and, uh, could have been deadly, frankly, if things weren't, uh, things just turned out just a little bit differently. Let me ask you this. Uh, so we're talking local law enforcement. This isn't the feds folks, right? This is local law enforcement. Now something else, and I know you haven't gotten into it yet. Something else is probably going through your mind about motive the whole time this is happening. Correct.

Yeah. Oh yeah. So let's get into that. First of all, is I've publicly on my program. talked about how there are studies done that say the average person, you and I, everybody watching this video right now commits three felonies a day because there are so many tyrannical laws. And so the first thing I'm thinking just because is, is that I'm like, okay, which one of these felonies are they deciding to go after me for? Because there's been a long history of abuse where, first of all, I'm exposing the things that are going on, on the state and federal level and naming names, talking about specific people being involved in, in the legislature that are completely corrupt and passing unconstitutional legislation and doing, you know, uh, basically lying to the public about what, who they are.

Are some of these people local? State, state legislators. And, uh, and in fact, I did a, um, a program about, um, satanic ritual abuse and our local sheriff. And so, you know, just doing things that are. Okay. That might be a little bit of. You think, whoa, you mean the guy that raided you? Okay. Right.

Exactly. Okay. So after I do a program, that was hilarious. I'm sorry. I don't mean to interrupt you, but that was hilarious. It's like, it could be this. It could be this. It could be, I targeted the guy that raided me. No. And so, yeah, you have all of these things going on that are definite possibilities.

I've got a history where they, um, you know, they blocked my, this, the same sheriff's department blocked my driveway with a DUI checkpoint so that I couldn't leave my house or go home without having to be harassed by the sheriff's department for an entire weekend. And so, and then you have the, uh, uh, attempted kidnapping of my daughter through a completely falsified affidavit from the local CPS. Uh, that was after I exposed them and put out the guy's phone number and name, then he calls me up and says, oh, we dropped all the charges. And so, and then the judge that signed the, uh, warrant, the illegal warrant on constitutional warrant, his wife is a lawyer for CPS. And so you, you've got all of these different, either separate possibilities or combined possibilities, but it is a, uh, what is it now?

Five, six years of, uh, regular and sustained abuse and harassment from county and state government officials. It, you know, and I want to say something to the listeners. If you're listening on, um, podcasts, which, uh, we both have podcasts with Spreaker, by the way you can find just a little plug, create tree of Liberty society.com. Is that the name of your actual podcast? Tree of Liberty society. But yeah, so it's, and a link to it is on the website. And you're with Spotify. You're with I heart radio.

You're your favorite podcast platform. Yeah. Same with me guys. So if you're listening or you're watching, there are programs and I watched them myself where, you know, the, where people audit police officers. Oh yeah. You know what I'm talking about? There's one called audit, the audit too. Uh, and this happens. You have, and it's usually in smaller towns about between 40 and 60,000 population.

That's why I asked you earlier, uh, where if the sheriff or the chief of police, uh, has had problems with you. If, because a lot of the, a lot of the times these, these men in law enforcement don't know the law, they don't know the constitution. And we're an oath to something that I've never even read. Right. Exactly. But what you're saying is, are you thinking that some of this is trickling down from, from the state? Oh yeah.

State, or even like I said, the sheriff, because even after like the, the, the checkpoints and the raids, I mean, not the raids, the, um, the fire, that kind of stuff. There's, there's a timeframe where like I'm getting pulled over once a week, several times a month, um, completely just harassed. I was given a false ticket because like, like just for an example, one of them was for not having insurance. I'm like, well, if I don't have insurance, you, you usually tow my car, but you didn't tow my car because I showed you my insurance card, but it gave me a ticket for not having insurance. And then I go to the court hearing and the judge isn't there.

They reschedule. I miss that. I go to the third hearing and I show that I had insurance and that I showed it to the cop. And so they dismissed that ticket, but they give me a, they give me a fine for not showing up to the second court hearing that, uh, I wouldn't have gone to in the first place if the cop hadn't lied and said I didn't have insurance. Now was that city? Was that a city cop? That's county as well. That was.

So has it mostly been the run-ins have been with county that you've had bad run-ins? Okay. So this is obvious. You're feeling that this is blatant reprisal happening. One of the bills that I exposed, uh, the, the legislator that sponsored the bill, his son is a sheriff of another County. And so, you know, they're a part of a Utah state County, you know, sheriff association. And so, uh, they're definitely buddies. And so there's lots of different reasons and things that with, you know, most people don't have this many type of, uh, run-ins with a lot law enforcement that, uh, are proven false.

They drop all of the charges. And so it's all just harassment. It's not like, well, then you should just obey the law and you got nothing to worry about. No, it's all of these things have been proven to be bogus. It's just harassment. What's funny is a lot of people think that this is something more recent that our constitution hasn't like that. Maybe in the past it's been followed more than it is today, but that's not completely the case, right? We've always had, as a matter of fact, there probably was just as much police corruption back in a hundred years ago as there is today.

Let me ask you this and it's irrelevant because you have a right to say anything you want on your platform without being persecuted. Right. What made you think the sheriff just, maybe this is a little, uh, fun fact, but what made you think that this sheriff was involved in satanic ritual abuse? Yeah. Uh, so again, sticking to beliefs, right? So that way you don't get sued, but it's irrelevant. Really? You can, you can, you can say that the mayor is a witch, you know, and you shouldn't have something like this.

Right. Yeah. And so because of, um, things that I know from people that have worked for his department, um, the fact that he, we have confessions and, um, he does not, um, prosecute and, um, you know, cover basically it appears that there's a coverup for satanic ritual abuse in the, uh, in the County, frankly, all over the state. And, um, if you look into the, the Franklin, not the Franklin, I'm sorry, the Wolf of Franklin cover, but the, uh, Glenn Pace memo in the state of Utah and, um, and the things that, uh, other deputies in his department that I've talked to, uh, talk about how he has, you know, covered up and swept under the rug.

And the, uh, the former, uh, district attorney for the County, um, the County attorney, uh, he was accused by several individuals of, uh, satanic ritual abuse. And another, a code defend defendant, a person that was accused as well was charged, but you know, the County attorney wasn't, and he was allowed to just go off, run off to Scotland and go buy a castle. And so it's, um, you know, if, if the, if the evidence is credible for one, it's credible because the same people are making the accusations. Um, it's, uh, it seems reasonable to say that those, the other people being accused by the same individuals should have been charged as well. And so it, uh, it looks like a lot of cooperation and, uh, and it looks like that they're definitely from just all of the accumulated evidence from different points, uh, to, to me shows involvement in, uh, in the practice.

Yeah. And, and like I said, it's irrelevant. You know, I don't know much about it, so I can't make a judgment on that because I don't know anything about it, but you have a right to say those things. And in a country where we have the constitution, if it's being followed, then he has a right legally to make his own podcast or come out and say, look, defend himself, uh, Ben McClendon official. We have the fundamental right to, you know, now if I were to accuse my neighbor of eating babies and said, I, you know, I know he does it. Right.

I don't. And I say it that's, you know, that's liable. And you're, you're, you're, um, ruining somebody's reputation. Well, but that's still, you don't have that same standard. That's still not illegal. That would be considered more of a civil matter. Right. Right. And then they can do a cease and desist, which I found out recently does not mean you legally have to stop talking about it.

It just says, if you don't, we're going to do you, we're going to take action. Like you said in the, in the civil, as opposed to criminal. Right. And that's all the sheriff had to do. So that's where I'm backing you there. As far as the satanic stuff, I don't know. I can't make a judgment on it, but it's interesting. Very interesting. So, uh, you, you said you had some latest, uh, uh, a follow-up, some updates on what's going on.

So the update, one of the updates was the response that I got from the lawyer after watching my first update. Okay. So that's one of them. The, the next one was, so in the warrant we have, it says proof by avid affidavit made upon, I think I mentioned this before made upon oath or written affirmation. And so the lawyer says, you know, that the warrant is, is unconstitutional on its face, but I want to read the affidavit. Can you get me a copy of the affidavit? That's referenced in the warrant.

So I'm like, okay, I'll call up the sheriff's department. And I call up the sheriff's department because they're the ones that would have it because they submitted it to the court to have them, uh, sign off on the warrant. And, uh, the lady asks, okay, you know, what's the, what's the warrant number? What's your name? What's the case number? You know, all that kind of information as if she's looking it up and then she can get it to me. So once she did that, she's like, oh, uh, you're going to have to file a grandma request to get this information.

And the state of Utah, a grandma request is basically like on the, on the federal level, uh, freedom of information act requests, the state equivalent of that. So basically they're saying, I'm, you're not going to get this. You know, I'm asking this information. I could, if, if it was, you know, why would she have asked for that information? If I had to, if it was just standard procedure that you had to file a grandma request to get an affidavit for your warrant, she would have just said, oh, I'll request, just go to the website and do this. It wasn't until after she got my name and looked up the case that she said, no, I'm not giving that to you.

You're going to have to file a freedom of information act request to get it. And so they're hiding the, the, the so-called evidence, because as soon as that comes out, it's going to, it's going to make the, the warrant look even worse than it already does. The warrant itself is, is unconstitutional. Um, it's got false information in the warrant itself. And it's too broad. They're basically putting up barriers for you to take legal action. To prove that they violated, you know, that there's, that they violate the law. You might have some, are you, so are you kind of. So this lawyer wants to take the case.

So we're just trying to get the data to be able to do that. So what, what's up with this attorney? Like, is he, is it he or she? He, or is he a pretty big time? Um, does he have a lot of experience in this? It's not like one of those names where you see billboards all over the highway all the time. Um, he does have experience, you know, his, his, his main thing that he does is kind of go after bullies is what he says. Um, he's read, uh, you know, here's another plug for the books.

He's read the books and that's how he came across to watch my video is he's been following me and he's read, um, my books, both volume one and two of invasion and said, you know, that Ben's, you know, right on the money. So you got this guy that knows what he's doing and says, well, you know, that what I'm doing is accurate. And, uh, that's, that's why he follows it. And I will have the link to Ben's, all of Ben's links in, in the description section. And, uh, is that available on Kindle? Yeah. Well, not on Kindle because, uh, Amazon banned the book last year.

So that tells you a little bit more about what I think you said that already. Yeah. So, you know, when you want to buy a banned book, go to the, uh, go to Barnes and Noble and you can get like a nook version of it, or you can get an e-version, like a, a PDF version off of my website, or like, uh, we have an audio book of volume one and then print editions of one and two. Or there's a, or there's a little man in a cabin. You can get it from up, up in the foothills above where. Send me some smoke signals and we'll trade some gold and silver and I'll get you a copy. Yeah.

Okay. Well, um, is there anything else we need to discuss? So right now that's kind of the main thing. If anybody wants to help out, encourage you to go to the website and, and, uh, throw us, you know, a couple of bucks to either become a member or, or a donation. Um, help it'll help me be able to set up some things because one of the big problems that happened with this is I don't have a security, you know, system in place, uh, to monitor and to record everything that, um, would happen. And so, um, that's something that I'd like to be able to, to take care of and, uh, to be able to kind of do a better job at securing the place, uh, for my protection of my family and, uh, to be able to record and document the things that, uh, may or may not go on.

And, uh, just to, and so that's one of the ways that folks can help out right now. Um, if you go to the website and sign up for email alerts also as new things that we're going to ask people to do to help out, uh, will occur. Uh, but that's the things that we're doing right now, uh, that we'd encourage folks to, uh, come to the website and help us out on. Absolutely. Yeah. And I don't know if I'm, so I have to be careful too, because I can get struck. You don't know as far as YouTube is concerned. Sure.

They're yeah. And they're picky. I'm not sure if I'm going to have this video up yet on YouTube or if it's just going to be on the website and rumble, but it's also going to be a podcast. I'm glad you turned me on to Spreaker by the way, because they're, they kind of stay out of your business. Don't they? It seems like they do so far. I've never had a strike from Spreaker. I don't, I mean, that's, it's pretty amazing because they're owned by iHeartRadio.

So you'd think a big corporation like that would do that, but. But not Apple. Oh, by the way, I couldn't get into Apple. I have an Apple ID and they won't let me in. I don't know. Apple's big enough where they don't want you in there. Screw them. I don't need Apple. Spotify is actually just as good. Most people that go to podcasts, I guess, go to app or go to Spotify anyway.

Yep. So, all right. You know, you want to help out the last dispensation website. He gets, you know, if you listen through the Spreaker app that, you know, helps, helps the content creators more than listening to it on the other ones. Yes. Right. Exactly. Go to Spreaker. If you're going to listen to the website, either his or mine, go to Spreaker.

Also, this video will also be up on your website as well, right? Correct. Yep. Okay. Thank you very much, Ben. Keep us updated. Maybe come on in a few days and then we can update this. I think I'm going to put this up on YouTube. Just give it a shot. If they can't imagine, there's nothing, you're not, you're not giving medical misinformation.

No, no. You should be okay. Yeah. All right, brother. You take care. Okay. Thank you. Alright. Bye

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