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Member Training – Talking “Conspiracy”

Posted by Ben McClintock, Tuesday, 14 Oct 2025. Training held Monday, 13 Oct 2025.

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Member training from October 13th, 2025.


In this week’s training, we focused on reclaiming the language of truth from the grip of propaganda. Too many today shy away from words like conspiracy or parrot the term conspiracy theory—a phrase the CIA deliberately weaponized to discredit truth-seekers. But a conspiracy is not a myth; it’s a legal, factual reality—an agreement between two or more people to commit unlawful acts in secret. Throughout history, leaders from George Washington to John Jay recognized and fought against conspiracies, yet modern society has been conditioned to mock those who do the same. Tonight, we traced how that manipulation took hold, exposed the individuals and networks openly admitting their designs for global control, and reaffirmed why our duty is not just to know these facts but to act upon them. Our goal remains clear: to expose and destroy the satanic conspiracy undermining freedom, to speak plainly using the correct terms, and to build an effective, principled resistance grounded in verified fact—not in theory.


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TRANSCRIPT


Our Father in heaven, we are grateful to come together for this meeting and ask Thy blessings to be with us. Please guide and direct the presentation tonight, that Thy Spirit would direct what is given, that it may be given in a clear manner to our understanding. May our minds be enlightened, that we may comprehend and be able to begin to apply these things into our lives. and strive to be found worthy, to be useful unto thee, our Father. Please watch over, protect Ben and his family and each one that is seeking to do thy will and to build up thy kingdom. We ask for these blessings in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen.

So let's talk conspiracy talk. A lot of times because of the way that the conspiracy has framed things, we either overcompensate. And we say, oh, you know, we either poo poo or we not poo poo. We try to avoid certain words or we say things in the way that the conspiracy wants us to. And so I want to talk to us. I want to I want to talk to the group tonight about that. But of course, as always, I'm hoping that every week we've done something in addition to training to see what we've done to be able to increase your knowledge this week. We want to make sure that we're not a part of the. the reason why we're perishing as a people and to be able to be a good influence and overcoming the ignorance of the masses and reminding us of the purpose of what we're doing here tonight is to build understanding and adherence to the principles that have built free nations to expose the satanic conspiracy and then to act on it right build an effective resistance to that conspiracy doesn't give us any good to know about these things if we're not going to act upon them So I want to talk about some terms tonight.

These are some words that, of course, that we use a lot. We are not afraid to call things what they are, that we're dealing with a conspiracy, that then the word fact, the word theory, conspiracy theory, and conspiracy fact. So let's distinguish between those things. What's the history behind those things, the definitions, and so that we can accurately and use those terms as well as be effective in overcoming the false use of those terms. Okay. Now, conspiracy theory as a term. A lot of people think that the phrase conspiracy theory was invented by the CIA as a way to be able to discredit people that expose the conspiracy.

But the first... Time that we can find the usage of the phrase conspiracy theory is actually back in 1863, a New York Times letter discussing a conspiracy theory that claimed British aristocrats were trying to weaken the U.S. during the Civil War. Okay, so that's when we go back to, that's when the first time that phrase was actually used, but... was not a pejorative term. It was not something that was used as an insult. It was just used in a factual way. It was a theory involving a conspiracy. OK, so we're going to get into those terms and what the difference is and all that kind of stuff as we go through training tonight. But it was the CIA that said we're going to weaponize the phrase conspiracy theory.

So the until the 1960s. conspiracy theory was just the same as any other theory out there was some you know and we'll get into that what that means but it was the 1960s when we see the cia um they they weaponized it as a pejorative or an insult to discredit anyone questioning the official line so they wanted to um use the word conspiracy theory to make sure that you know and equate it with crazy people and with you know wacky things so that way then in the minds of the people they would anytime anybody was exposing corruption they would just say oh that's a conspiracy theory and they could just dismiss it as a as a nut as something that we didn't have to listen to that was nonsense and so that's that's when the word starts to be weaponized or the phrase starts to be weaponized And so we go from this time period where, you know, all throughout history, where people say there are theories and that there are conspiracies, and that's just the way it was.

All of a sudden now, what is this now? 50, 60, you know, 60 something years ago, it starts the transfer, the switch to... pejorative term into something to say, oh, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but, and so they want to make sure that this is in our zeitgeist and that we have this inner mindset so that we don't call things what they are so that we don't become discredited for saying what it is. Okay. So what is a conspiracy? Conspiracy, it derives from the Latin word conspirator, which literally means to breathe together.

Okay. conspiracy this is we're going to the the cornell law school the legal word this is not just this there is actual uh legal there is code in law talking about conspiracy says it's a conspiracy is an agreement between two or more people to commit an illegal act along with an intent to achieve the agreement's goal most jurisdictions also require an overt act toward furthering the agreement an overt act is a statutory requirement not a constitutional one, okay? Conspiracy generally carries a penalty on its own. In addition, conspiracies allow for derivative liability where conspirators can also be punished for the illegal acts carried out by other members.

So a conspiracy is something that is real. It is something that is not only real, but it's illegal, right? If two or more people are gathering together to plan a secret, criminal act they are conspirators in pursuit of establishing and getting the goals of the conspiracy come to fruition okay so people have not been afraid to call it a conspiracy over time we have in the 1800s george q cannon saying we have had conspiracies against our liberties from every quarter we have had conspiracies of every conceivable character You cannot conceive of anything scarcely in the shape of conspiracy that has not been formed against us. Not afraid to use the word, not afraid to call it what it is.

Go back to the 1700s. You have the first Supreme Court Justice of the United States, John Jay, being the head of a commission for detecting and defeating conspiracies in the state of New York. So not only did they believe in conspiracy, but they formed a committee to detect them and then to defeat them. That is what we do. We detect them and we work to defeat them. And so we have serious... in serious positions that recognized and identified them for what they were and organized to do something about it. George Washington himself, in a letter to a pastor, says there is nobody that is more fully satisfied to the fact that the doctrines of the Illuminati have spread in the United States. No question about it. It's a fact. Okay, now we go to the word fact. And it is something that has actual existence and actual occurrence, a piece of information presented as having objective reality, the quality of being actual. Okay. So that is a fact.

So when I said conspiracy fact, it is a fact that people gather together in secret to do a criminal thing. Now we go to the word theory. A theory is a plausible. or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena. A belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action. An ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances often used in the phrase in theory, a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation, an unproved assumption, a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject theory of equations so the word theory yes i i the lettering is so small on my screen i can't tell what it the the um definition is can you read it yeah that's what i just read i just read that to you i i didn't get it i didn't get it okay Is it okay if we just have you just go over the audio or we can go over another time? Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. That's right. Sorry. You're good.

Okay. So, you know, the idea of a theory by itself, right? A fact, a theory, a conspiracy. These are all things in and of themselves that any reasonable, honest person could say, yeah, of course, this thing's, you know, theories. There's nothing wrong with theories. They're used all of the time. to come to facts. They are used all of the time to discover scientific principles. Any reasonable person, if you don't use a theory, you're a liar because everybody uses theories to be able to come to their ultimate conclusions on any fact. You start off with something and then you work to either prove it or disprove it, but it's the working theory, the working idea until you come to the knowledge of what it is. So we have now the word conspiracy theory would be right. What it should mean is a plausible scenario behind criminal acts perpetrated by two or more individuals that needs further investigation to prove or disprove. Right. That's all it is.

A conspiracy theory is just something that we haven't proven yet, but it's plausible. Right. Mark. Yes. Yes, this last definition really resolves my concern, but I am concerned in that first page, Webster. You know, all the definitions they gave there, the one that stood out the most was a hypothetical set of facts. A theory is based on facts. It's analysis of facts. A lot of those definitions really weren't accurate in terms of saying it's taking facts and analyzing it based on logic, developing a hypothesis from those facts. So just say it's a hypothetical set of facts suggests they're not real facts. I think that's kind of an important point. This definition here, this term, helps raise all that some. But see my point? Yeah, absolutely.

So it's, yeah, it's important to understand that a good, a reasonable theory is going to be based on previously determined things that we do know. You can't just, a legitimate theory can't like, that's, I think when we had a previous training on the theory of evolution or the theory of the Big Bang is, it is not a plausible or a reasonable theory because it is not based on predetermined, pre-established facts. And so a good responsible conspiracy theory would be something that is based on predetermined facts to say, OK, because of these predetermined facts, we've come to this plausible scenario. Let's investigate further to see if this is actually what happened. Right.

But not hypothetical set of facts. Right. Yeah. So but what have they done, though? They've they've changed it from what it should mean to this is what. you know the idea when somebody says conspiracy theory these are the images that come into their mind and it's by design they want anybody that talks about conspiracy to be seen as a you know just a complete nut and so what because of this we have a job to overcome the brainwashing and that's why i focus so much not on theories but on facts And so, right, we have the conspiracy fact is a criminal evil act between two or more people that actually occurred and we can prove it. Right. That's a conspiracy fact. And so that's what we focus on so much. And so that we don't have as you know, we don't give people the plausible deniability to say, oh, that's just a whacked out theory. But hey, here is the receipts for everything that we're saying. And there's just, there's no way, there's no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

So that way we can overcome the propaganda machine by saying, okay, let's maybe when we, you know, amongst ourselves and whatnot, we kind of avoid the theorizing, but come together as we do to be able to say, okay, what is the facts that we can come to and then present those to the public? Yes, Mark. Yes, even here, excuse me, I have some problems. Okay. Gosh, it's blocked. Oh, there you go. The act, let's say there's a conspiracy to murder somebody. Yes. And based on this, they're saying a criminal evil act. So that would be the murder. That wouldn't be the conspiracy. This conspiracy is the plotting, the organizing. Sure. So I think it's kind of important to realize the plotting. And then the execution are the specific crimes, whether it's treason, whether it's murder, whatever those are.

And so this here is talking about the actual acts instead of really the conspiracy. Thank you for the clarification, because, yeah, my intent was the whole entire process, the conspiracy process in the beginning, the planning, the plotting, the organizing. Then making sure that it happens effectively and in the way that they wanted to and then the actual completion of that act was my intention to kind of put that all together into one thing. But so thank you for the clarification. So we're going to get into conspiracy facts. This is what the facts. The fact is that Ted Wilson, the former mayor of Salt Lake City, the director to UCARE and Utah's Southern Wellness Alliance. which are linked to the program of agenda 21 it's a fact that he said that utah has a power structure that's quite concentrated intends to operate behind closed doors at the alta club so This, you know, a lot of times people are sticklers like, well, he didn't say we conspire together to do things.

Well, there are, you know, even though there's no real synonyms where that's why we have different words, but there are things that have similar, there are words that have similar meanings. And when you put together, right, if you read the definition of the word, just because it didn't have the word in the definition doesn't mean you didn't just define the word. And what he just did there was define conspiracy. Go ahead. Mark, were you going to say something? Oh, no. I was just saying to myself, you're absolutely right.

Oh, okay. Yeah. So he just defined it. Just because he didn't use the word didn't mean that they weren't engaging in that thing. So he defined what a conspiracy is. We have tragedy and hope where we have Carol Quigley. He defines the word. I mean, he discusses the conspiracy that they're engaged in. He says there is, there does exist and has existed for a generation. an international anglophile network which operates to some extent in the way the radical right believes the communist act in fact this network which we may identify as the round table groups has no aversion to cooperating with the communists or any other group and frequently does so i know of the operation of this network because i have studied it for 20 years and was permitted for two years in the early 60s to examine its papers and secret records I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments.

I have objected both in the past and recently to a few of its policies, but in general, my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known. So again, he defines the actions of a conspiracy, that there is a group of people, there is a network of individuals, that have no aversion to working with it, right? It says that they believe that, let's see here, which operates in the way that what he calls radical right believes the communist act. So he's saying we are doing the things that the communists do and we work with communists. Communists are a criminal conspiracy. Communism is a criminal conspiracy in the United States.

So he's admitting. If we know the definitions of these words and what he's saying, he is admitting that he has studied the works and he supports the efforts of this criminal conspiracy to build a global government, a global tyranny. And so again, it's a conspiracy fact that he is saying that there is this network that exists that factually is conspiring to do these things. Now we have Cecil Rhodes. in his last will and testament that was written with him and William Steed, which says, to share a scheme to take the government of the whole world. His road, meaning Rhodes' idea of the secret society broadened and made presentable to the public without in any way revealing the esoteric truth that lay behind.

Mr. Rhodes recognized this and eagerly welcomed it. So his secret society, part of that network is the Rhodes Scholarship Program, which many people in religious and government positions are a part of. And this is that secret society that is working in a scheme to take the governments of the world. So this is a criminal act that is in secret. that is with the the well this is the criminal the their plan their plot to build this world government in secret is a con is a criminal act and it is by definition even though he didn't use the word he didn't say we are involved in a conspiracy to build world government he used the definition of the word conspiracy to say we are in a conspiracy to build world government he continues on he says the only thing feasible oops let me go back To carry out this idea is a secret society gradually absorbing the wealth of the world to be devoted to such an object. So we see that inflation isn't just a nasty, horrible theft that's being used to tax the people.

It's being used to absorb the wealth of the world to build this satanic world government. You are being stolen from through inflation. as a part of this conspiracy to build a satanic world government. That's what he says right there. So not only is this a wicked conspiracy to build satanic world government, this conspiracy involves the theft of everything you own to be able to build it. So they couldn't just build it on their own, which would be bad enough. They are using the arm of government to build it through your wealth. And again, conspiracy fact, we have... elites of the world in academia, in business, and in government meeting every summer to engage in these satanic rituals. Oops, let me go back. Okay, so it's a fact. We have George Bush there. You have George Bush Jr. there. You have Newt Gingrich there.

You have Clarence Thomas there. You know, just Newt Gingrich. I mean, I already said that. Richard Nixon. You have Ronald Reagan. The list goes on and on and on. powerful leaders going there to engage in this ritual where they are doing a ceremony a religious ordinance to a babylonian idol to gain the knowledge that they want to be able to build this world government and at the bohemian grove every year That's where the things like the atomic bomb were discussed or things like the United Nations were organized. The plans for this world government that these other tentacles are a part of are plotted at the Bohemian Grove where they engage in these satanic rituals.

That is a fact. David Rockefeller admits himself that he says that people believe that we're part of a Syria cabal working against the best interests of the United States. characterizing my family and me as internationalists and of conspiring he actually uses the word conspiracy so he's like it doesn't even use the definition of the word conspiracy he flat out says of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure one world if you will if that's the charge i stand guilty and i'm proud of it so he admits And these quotes aren't new to us here, but I want to emphasize it, these things, in the light of what I'm talking about tonight. And using these words and using this understanding of what conspiracy is. And so that when people around you might pooh-pooh the idea of a conspiracy, you have the internal confidence to be able to say, I'm not talking about a theory. His autobiography is not a theory.

It's not a theoretical thing that exists out there. It's an actual factual thing that exists. And this man who is in a position to know and a position to do admits what he's doing and what the facts show and why other people have accused him of these things. He admits it and he says that he's proud of what he's doing. That is not a theory. This is a fact. Okay. The United Nations published an article. It says it's terrible to have to say this. world population must be stabilized and do that we must eliminate 350 000 people per day this is so horrible to contemplate that we shouldn't even say it but the general situation in which we are involved is lamentable so he's saying it's horrible that i have to say this doesn't want to say it out loud doesn't want to publish it but he's like hey guys we got to get to business and we got to start killing 350 000 people every single day that's a fact these people that are a part of this network that i've mentioned these previous slides that is their goal okay so we'll see memes like this and we'll you know different this idea or a variation of this idea of right i need new conspiracy theories because all my old ones came true it's not it's not like you just made something we're not just making up stuff and all of a sudden it came true we have to stop that's not that's People might think it's funny, but it is feeding into the conspiracy's language and verbiage and feeds into the idea that, oh, it's just a theory.

There's nothing to it. But all of a sudden, hey, we were right. Just luck of the draw. But it's not the luck of the draw because it's not a theory. What we're talking about is a fact, right? We use the phrase conspiracy or conspiracy fact. don't fall for their trap of equating fact with theory, right? So if you're talking about something that you can't prove, simply maybe call it a well-educated theory. So that way it's not debunked. And so it's important that we don't use their words. We don't use the word conspiracy theory when we're talking about a conspiracy because then it just feeds into it. We need to replace the word theory with fact.

And when we're talking about these things, because we can't pooh-pooh, we can't shy away from using the word conspiracy because that feeds into what the conspiracy wants us to do. But we don't want to do like what that that meme says is referred to it as a theory and speak about these things as if we didn't know it was true until we had the evidence come out. We were just saying it. No, everything we're talking about, we can prove we have the receipts for. It's a conspiracy fact. And we need to not be afraid to say it. That is, you know, as we look in our member manual on the section on exposing and destroying the conspiracy, we understand the importance of naming it that and calling it that. And so, but at the same time, we don't feed into the conspiracies verbiage and propaganda by calling it a theory.

We just, we beat it down. It's a, you know, it's a conspiracy fact. we did during the fake pandemic we didn't call it the pandemic it's a fake pandemic because we have to overcome the verbiage that's being used by the conspiracy to instill the fear or in this case to negate what is being said and so but we we have to use the word that they don't want us to use while reclaiming it and we do that we expose and we stop the conspiracy one of the the most effective tools that that we have is the book Invasion. And as I mentioned in the book, there are other fantastic books that expose the conspiracy. You have The Insiders by Perloff. You have None Dare Call It Conspiracy.

But those talk about the global conspiracy. The importance of invasion is the fact that it shows you how this global conspiracy infiltrates your local community, but it also shows you the game plan. What is the plan that we have for stopping this conspiracy? And so we have the problem and the solution all together. And as we do that, because it is not a theory, because the things in this book are facts and they are documented, the receipts are all given so that you know that you can trust and that as we've done in previous trainings, shown you everything that proves that what we said is true in the book and it always has been. And so that you can depend on these things to be able to help you in your efforts to expose the conspiracy and to stop the conspiracy with the program within those pages, along with the supplement, of course, with the member manual. And so with that, you know, we conclude our training tonight with some extra time.

But I wanted to make sure that we did again, as I mentioned just a minute ago, the importance of seeing the evolution over time of the word conspiracy. seeing the evolution of how the conspiracy has tried to link it with kookery. And so that way nobody wants to even look at the fact that we are facing a conspiracy. We need to understand those things. And so that when we warn our neighbor about what's going on, we are confident and we don't get sucked into the verbiage of the conspiracy wants us to get sucked into. So Mark, yeah, you have your hand up.

Yes, previously you gave a great analogy, and that's really why it's so important to identify the conspiracy when you talked about going after the arsonist and not just their fire, just putting out their fires. Because if you don't eliminate the arsonist, the conspiracy, then they can have the... power and the conspiracy is so powerful this elite cabal and all their minions are so powerful they can just continue to work towards this communistic totalitarian world government so i i think that's and their evidence suggests they know that's why it's so important that we don't identify the conspiracy And the only solution is we have to stop the conspiracy. We have to identify the people. We have to put them in jail, expose their organizations like you do in your books, invasions and so forth. So that's why it's so important. We can't solve a problem. We don't are willing to call the problem by its name. Well, like you just said right there, right? What is it that they're afraid of?

They obviously, just like we talked about last week, they're afraid of us opting out of their system. And they're afraid of being named for who they are. So we can't, you know, get sucked into these things of, and this is something I hear a lot is, well, if we just focus on the good principles of what we're trying to build, then we can be treated, you know, people will listen to us more and we'll be able to reach more people. Well, yeah, because the conspiracy doesn't care about you. You're not a threat to them when you don't identify them and call them by what they are. And they're not a threat because they have so much power over the opinion controlling institutions. So we don't have to worry too much about, you know, a handful of people knowing what's going on. It's the masses that we have to worry about. Yeah.

Any other thoughts? We're a little bit early tonight, but do you have any questions or anything they'd like to add to this topic before we close and have open forum? Well, just one example, Ben. So you mentioned inflation earlier. So inflation is created by these people, various ways, Federal Reserve. counterfeiting money and so forth, which is the definition of inflation increase in money supply. So that's one of the fires that they've created and they're expanding and using. But they have so many other fires, and that fire is hard to put out, just that one fire, because they have so much control over what people believe. Sure, you have to go after the fire, Stan. I think of an analogy, you're in a small room or a bathroom, and somebody throws a deadly cobra in there. Well, you have to go after the cobra, but you also have to go after the person who threw the cobra in the room. Yeah. So mainly we have to, the most important thing is what you're talking about tonight.

We have to be able to argue. There is a conspiracy and who identify who they are and then eventually get to the point of that was a New York committee, a state committee. We were talking about commission where you have to identify it and then you have to abolish it. Yep. Yep. Yeah. And that's the thing is what we're doing is we're not just by ourselves, right? If we're in a room by ourselves and we kind of just got to focus on the Cobra. But as we gain in numbers and in strength, we can have a group of people focusing on the fire and then a group of people focusing on the arsonist. And we can work on this and take care of both problems at once. Anybody else?

I'll just add one more thing. You brought up Derek Hall's conspiracy and Perloff's book. And I talked about this a little last time. It is so important that we can, for people that are willing to see the truth and can reason to. to get these books in their hands. So if we haven't read them, I strongly recommend it. We all read them. And then we share them. And then share them with people that care about justice, are reasoning people and don't have a bias or willing to seek out the truth on such important matters. And then once you get there, they're playing on our field because we have the facts and logic on our hand.

So, I mean, there's so many... fires they're setting but those books expose so many of the fires that you can't a picture of its size immensity and control like you talked about controlling the academia uh media and of course government okay thank you let's go ahead and wrap it up and then we'll go into open forum and we can start talking about whatever you guys want to but let's have a closing prayer first um pam would uh pam clinch would you be willing to say the closing prayer for us yes i'd be glad to

Heavenly Father, we are grateful for this time we've spent together tonight. We're grateful for just the opportunity of living and sort these things out that are part of our world every day. We pray to have wisdom, to see the conspirators, to be willing to call them out and to change the things that we can. We pray for safety and peace in the lives we're trying to live and that we can feel our spirit and make. proper choices as we defend the liberties that has given us. We are so grateful for our association with each other and we say these things in the name of our Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

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