Member Training – Understanding the War We Are In (Updated)

Member training from August 25th, 2025.

Tonight Simon led a training on Understanding the War We’re In, focusing on how the fight for freedom is not against our everyday neighbors but against a carefully laid, satanic-driven conspiracy that has infiltrated government, culture, and society. We examined examples like the Bohemian Grove rituals, school-choice legislation, the misuse of “emergencies” to justify tyranny, and the ongoing Epstein cover-up, all of which reveal a deliberate effort to destroy Christianity, parental rights, and liberty itself. I emphasized that this war is not circumstantial but intentional, carried out by trained conspirators, often under the guise of benevolence. We discussed how both political parties, along with media and academia, aid in this deception, desensitizing the public to evil until people simply accept it. In the end, I stressed that voting harder or suing will not save us—the system is rigged—and that our only hope is to stand on God-given rights, practice nullification, educate ourselves and our communities, and build a culture that upholds truth and liberty

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TRANSCRIPT

Our Father in heaven, we are here to advance the cause of freedom in our lives, in our communities, in our country. And we need thy help. And we know that if we ask thee, Father, thou will guide each of us individually. And this we do right now. Ask us. We ask thee, Father. that thou would inspire us and fill our minds with those things that we can do that will give us the courage to open our mouths and to speak. Bless us with intelligence and thy guidance together that we may accomplish these things. In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.

For those of you just tuning in, my name is Simon. I have been asked by Ben to lead this training. I've done a few courses down here in Juab County. I'm the one that helps do that. And I've been behind the scenes a lot. Usually on Monday nights, I'm unable to make it. I have my kids. And I am not usually able to make it except for on occasion. I made a special effort to start tonight and do tonight's training. He asked me to pick, I went through the archives and picked one that was, I thought it was very, it aged very well. I think the theme is timeless. And so yeah, again, if you have any comments, questions, please tune in. I love. feedback, and I love the open discussion about this as well.

So, and Rod, looks like you just joined in, so if there's any technical support you can offer, I am so not tech savvy at this. So this is my first Zoom meeting I've led, but happy to see you all here. Simon, what is the title of our topic? What's the topic today? Let me just share my screen here. The title is Understanding The War Understanding. Let's see if I can pull this up. I think it's called Understanding the War We're In. Yeah, Understanding the War We're In. Let me just pull up and share my screen. Just so you know, Simon, I am here, but I'm actually driving for the next little while. Okay, so I'm on my own for a minute. All right.

Let me see. Now we'll share a screen and click on this one. all right let me know if you guys see that in if you're tuning in at the beginning of this i uh was there was some technical difficulties so give me a second i will okay i'm gonna start this slide and um hide this and there usually comes up a bar on the side and i have to escape and do it again and voila okay if that works if y'all can see that um i don't know how to do multiple screens so i'm going to i don't know how to unmute you um at the for the time so i'm going to click back here and i'm going to unmute all of you if that's okay if you guys can tolerate that that way if you can tune in whenever you want um i'll ask to unmute Each of you. If you want to unmute yourselves, I guess just tune right in. I'm new at this. Work with me tonight and we'll hopefully get through this. Go back to the presentation and start again. Okay, so tonight's presentation, Understanding the War We Are In. I believe this has aged very well.

This was given, I believe, January. No, it's January 30th of 2023. So if you guys were here around for that, I believe it's aged very well. I believe it's still timely. The topic of Epstein, the Bohemian Society, they're all part of the conspiracy that we are working to fight against. And yeah, some of this stuff has been... Well, it's new for me. And so for any of you who know more than me, please enlighten me on some of this stuff. I have never, for instance, I've never read the entire script of the Bohemian, I guess, for lack of a better term, initiation or. ceremony if you will I found it to be very dark and very anti-christian and very anti-christian as nature so if any of you have anything more to add please chime in okay so understanding the war we're in basically we need to understand that we're not fighting we're not fighting aborigines we're not fighting the the average everyday neighbor we're finding trained individuals who are after our demise they want they want us gone they want christianity gone and this has been a carefully planned deeply laid conspiracy against not only christianity but zion um the kingdom of god etc um so which i guess in Understanding who we're fighting, we can better prepare for this. We can better prepare for what tools we should have at our fingertips and we should use to fight off this conspiracy to have the tools we need. Sorry, clipped the wrong button there. So are we in a war with ignorant people?

Are we in a war with useful idiots or are we in a war with leaders? And what's the extent of their knowledge, their understanding of what's going on? Is this just happening circumstantially? I mean, personally, I don't believe in circumstances, but what is happening to bring this about? Are these accidents? Or is this actually... a carefully laid conspiracy. Are these secret combinations or are they, is it just our imagination running wild? I know that myself personally, I can get caught up in doubting myself, doubting what I've been shown, especially lately. I'm new to the Tree of Liberty Society. I'm new to lot of these ideas and concepts so doubt can tend to creep in and I can I tend to personally want to give people the benefit of the doubt any any comments on that as far as our personalities are we tend to want to be Christians first and give people the benefit of the doubt okay Simon can I say something yeah I think what happens is that in general People kind of, they kind of make assumptions about others and they assume that everybody else is like themselves.

So people that are more, you know, criminally, carnally minded, they don't trust anybody because they assume that everybody's like them, untrustworthy. And those of us that are, you know, a little more trustworthy, we try to be honest in our daily dealings. We kind of... have that assumption about people in general in the world. And so I think that's why for people like us, it makes it very difficult sometimes to see things for what they are because we want to just assume that everybody else just wants to do the right thing like we do. Right. Bury our head in the sand or just want to give the benefit of the doubt. I agree, I think.

nd yes, definitely we tend to judge people. the way we are so definitely any other thoughts on that yes this is mark one thought a couple thoughts here we've been trained conditioned to accept tyranny and to do that we've been trained to be subjects and part of that training is to excuse me to be followers and that we have to have leaders i see this uh just today on Kate Dolly was on an interview tonight, and she was talking about Trump. Well, yes, you know, he's working for the conspiracy, but he thinks he's doing things that are okay, and she was implying that we should give him a break, even though they're carrying out this plan.

I see so much of this effort to not, to put, excuse me. to compromise reality and even uh the term for some people benefit of the doubt could be compromising reality we we've got to go into this uh just like a objective detective uh and look where reality takes us look what their actions how consistent they are carrying out the methods the goals of the agenda of the conspiracy look at their associations but most of all their actions and judge them in many categories one of the most important is whether they're promoting tyranny or advancing tyranny or advancing liberty so my point is the benefit of the doubt that's a tricky position to take because for some when they give them benefit of the doubt they're really denying reality. For others, they're just saying, I'm going to wait until I see enough evidence to prove that they're working for the conspiracy.

So I think that's the most important is to just use reasoning and don't compromise reality at all and do enough investigation so we can know whether they're working for the conspiracy or not. Right. Great thought. I appreciate that. By their fruits, you shall know them, as the Savior says. Yes, great thoughts. So are we in a war with ignorant leaders or conspirators? That's definitely, it's a good, it does matter. So it's a great. Well, that's the mark again. I'm having trouble finding anybody that's considered a leader that is ignorant because they've proven over and over again through various. through logic that they're conspirators and evidence that they know what they're doing.

Just going back to Trump, for example, one aspect of the conspiracy, they want you to ignore the deceptive tactics they use. They want you to ignore, to a great extent, Let's use Biden and Trump as examples. They're lies. They're other disinformation tactics, other disinformation tactics, misleading statements, half-truths. And very seldom will the so-called opposition, like the Democrats, will say anything about Trump's lies. And if they do, like there were about 30 lies in his first debate with Biden and misstatements. this leading statement, and they would one day, they would talk, just say, well, there was some lies there, or they might bring up two of them, something like that, and then they're gone. Instead of that being the issue, we shouldn't have a president that lies at all. So that's one of the things that give people hope in these conspirators, and believing that could be leaked ignorance, is just ignore the fact of how much, whether they're supporting tyranny or not. how much they're lying to us.

And we have to get better at tracking down what is a lie. To do that, we have to know what the facts are about what they're talking. Secondly, we have to know what a lie is, an intentional falsehood. We have to know how much evidence is needed before it's beyond a reasonable doubt that it is a lie. And we have to be open to that truth and not in denial. Right. And the truth shall set us free. I agree. that's that's a great point thanks mark okay so yeah are we are we dealing with uh this guy or are we dealing with uh these guys so let's uh we you can go down a rabbit hole with the bohemian society and things like that and i think we will a little bit tonight some of this might be old hat for some of you but um some of this uh material can be somewhat troubling to some people. It was to me when I first read it, but it definitely is a conspiracy.

And that's been proved beyond reasonable doubt over and over again here, Tree of Liberty Society. We're about exposing these conspiracies. We're about getting to the truth and getting behind it. Well, I like this skull and bones thing. In the last training we went over, the symbology of that as well, and how that's affecting in reality today. We'll hopefully go over that tonight. Okay, so we went over last time, or the last time this was presented, what government does is they give us this false hope, this idea that we're going to give you your freedom, we're going to allow you school choice, quote unquote school choice, and how 29 states pass legislation to spend... private home schools and it's The old adage, we're going to allow you to teach your kids now, when it was never government's job in the first place. And 11 of the 23 introduced essentially the same model of legislation, 11 states in 2023. So that was back when this was first introduced.

And a lot of this legislation has gone through. especially in California, and California and Utah are considering giving the governor total control over water in an emergency, if an emergency is declared. As far as I know, this was passed. Does anybody know any different about that? Because as far as I know, this is a fact today. and the legislation has gone through. Let me know if anybody comes up with anything on that. But these ideas, they eventually come through and become, they get passed whether there's fight back on these or not, because the plan is to push forward and eventually get these implemented. So go ahead. Yeah, one thought on that, just on the emergency.

Emergency is now being used at the federal level, state level. It's all the executive has to say is emergency. And they're saying we have totalitarianism in some particular area or tyranny. It's a go to, what is it? The Monopoly game. Go straight to, not jail, but go straight to the home. I can't even think of the analogy. But anyway, the point is that If you hear that word emergency, they're trying to tell us whoever's saying it, whether it's the president or governor, they have totalitarian powers. They have radical powers to do whatever they want. And so just, it's like, oh, I'm trying to think of the, I can't think of the analogy. But I think we all have to stop that immediately whenever we hear that. We're in the law. gives the an executive the power to impose tyranny all worries all he has to do is say is tyranny yeah i mean excuse me all they have is talking about like go go to jail card yeah that's what i was thinking yeah yeah right it is a you say to emergency it's an it's immediate go to jail card Yeah, and the whole conspiracy media, politicians, academia, it goes right along with that. They implicitly don't disagree with that.

So it's our job to not accept that and point out that is illegal. It's not constitutional. And it's evil because you're imposing tyranny. And we should completely ignore the word emergency when they use it. And that gives us grounds for them to be removed from office at the earliest possibility. Right, and the emergency should be a nullify buzzword for us. Definitely, we see emergency, it means nullify. Yeah, so quote-unquote conservative states pass legislation like prohibiting parents from saving their kids from tyranny mutilation surgery. And basically, it's like you need permission to protect your kids. Why does the law say or legislation say that we have a right to protect our kids? That right was ours to begin with. I challenge anybody to show me any state statute or federal statute where the emergency is being used to impose an unconstitutional action as being constitutional. Not a single one of them that I've ever seen is illegal according to the law. Absolutely.

So through Uniform Law Commission, states are attacking parental rights, passing laws calling parents kidnappers. We've seen that. I think it was between when this was given and Christmas of that same year, Ben's house was actually raided. Am I correct in that, Rod? Do you know that? 2024? Or was this around the same time? Or was this right after? Yeah, that all happened prior to that. Yeah, so he was called a kidnapper by the state and accused of things like that. So much of this quote-unquote kidnappers, that the child belongs to the state before it belongs to the parents, like the whole Kamala Harris thing, the children of the community. is the idea here. And it happens on both sides of the aisle. It doesn't matter what left or right. It's happening both sides. So Republican and Democrat states worked in conjunction to shut down businesses and churches and private meetings. Interesting that these churches got opened up after the casinos and after the bars. So basically showing where we sit on the totem pole as far as priorities. So parents are being charged as terrorists.

We've seen that over. It's still happening today for wanting or for wanting to have any say about government schools, how their kids are taught. And this just recently as well is. It's still going on with government officials. Our main purpose is to spread out the Mormon influences in politics and make sure Mormons do not hold office like they're doing in Salt Lake County. So getting rid of any special interests, any moral interests with any religious backgrounds, getting that out of politics. um is also part of the plan getting religion out of politics and religion out of it it's a it's a bit of a counterfeit to the whole uh the original plan of the founding fathers any comments on that i'm interested in knowing who romney's shaking hands with it so yeah uh this is lane beady former head of the salt lake chamber um so yeah that's his that's uh His plan or that was a quote from him. It was interesting.

Connor Boyack did a Sunday musing on that very subject of the collusion with the church and politics in Utah, the history of it. It was very interesting. Like a couple of months ago, I'd say three months, maybe. Right. So real quick, who's this that talks for the minutes? Sorry. Sorry, you got that. You got who? Sorry, I'm not as familiar. I don't like to be quoted in the minutes. Okay. Well, you're not necessarily going to be quoted. I just write down what people are saying. Yeah. Joyce made some dumbass question or comment, you know, I mean, it's not. No, no. It's not part of the presentation. Well, Joyce, sometimes you say things that nobody but maybe one person gets a real big piece of information out of a minor little thing you might say. And it's important that this is here on the records that if anybody has any questions, we can go back. But so it's okay. You know, you're, you're being, I'm really writing things down that you're saying that everybody else is saying too.

So don't worry about it. We don't, it's, it's good. It's good, Joyce. All right. Well, I just didn't know who this was because I'm just seeing my screen. So if you could just say like, yeah. Identify yourself, right? Yeah. That's all. We're all idiots. Well, I'm chief idiot tonight. So you are seen by the enemy. You're seen as the enemy by those in power. I think that's a pretty good segue into I think we're all on the same side and we're not the enemies here. So we're targeted ourselves for what? for calling out the conspiracy so those who are in power are literal satanists and our enemies so and the u.s government uh is not zion at the very least is is the opposite of zion it is against zion we many times go over quotes from president's elect uh in their inaugural and James Buchanan in his inaugural address stating that if the Mormons, basically we need to go and stomp them out, any talk about this kingdom of God nonsense needs to be put down in such a matter that it will never come up again. But tonight we're going to go over a very, I guess this is the ritual from the Bohemian growth proving A satanic conspiracy.

And this is an event that countless government officials in government today, if you're high enough or elite enough, are invited to this event, which is purely satanic in nature. Bohemians. And this is the actual ritual. This is Bohemians. By the power of our fellowship. Dole care is slain, hearken. So it's just, so behold an effigy of this our enemy is carried hither from our ancient rites. Interesting that you have effigies on both sides in the early war for independence. The patriots burned effigies of those who were tyrannical. And now, You have effigies of of caring. You're going to burn your cares away. And yeah, feel free to comment to any of this as a group. They chant beauty and strength and peace. They are yours. They shall never cease the temple, the aisles of the wood. So basically hearkening back to the old groves in the Old Testament as well, calling that their temples. Going back to the earth, worship of the earth, worship of the trees and of nature, paganism. It is yours. It is good. It is made for your delight, beauty and strength and peace. They're here and you will find release from the mournful memories.

Oh, cast your grief to the fire and be strong with the holy trees. Again, going to that. Oh, nature is the true temple and the spirit of the grove. The voice of care. says fools fools fools when you learn when will you learn that me you cannot slay after year after year you burn me in your grove lifting your silly shouts of triumph to the stars but when when again you burn your feet toward them turn your feet towards the marketplace am i not waiting for you as of old fools fools fools so any comments on that to me that kind of represents it's kind of a plagiarism or a counterfeit to the sacrament, if you will, a recommitment. They're recommitting every year to this getting rid of worldly cares, getting rid of cares for morality, cares for just, yeah, general goodness. Any comments on that? Well, it reminds me what the communists used to say of their totalitarianism. slavery of the people. What do they call it in Russia and China and some of the communist countries? People's paradise. So it's just the old con game. And, you know, the scriptures say that Satan is a Lutheran deceiver. And it's just deception.

And, you know, they have to draw people in somehow. You know, the Piper used the flute. And here they're using lies to suck. people into their conspiracy. One thing I want to mention that you brought up, you said the leaders are Satanists. I think we have to be kind of careful. Of course, it all depends what we define as leaders. But so many of the participants in this conspiracy, I mean, I think it's just about everybody in Congress. Thomas Matthew, I think it's an exception, are working for this conspiracy. But I don't know if they're all really Satanists. They could be just minions, you know, selling their souls out. But so I think it's kind of important to define when we say they're all Satanists because that could undermine our credibility. Does that make any sense to you? Right. Right. Yeah, we definitely need to investigate before. I guess the word is investigation before condemnation. The ones I'm referring to are those that have been mentioned in previous trainings.

You got the people in the Epstein files. Definitely you're well-known, but not every mayor is a Satanist per se, but it is a system that is designed to work for Satan. Go ahead. Well, there's a lot more coming in this presentation tonight that's actually going to support that claim. Also, there are – the more you dig into some of these other things, theosophy and some of these other things, then you discover that they have satanic backgrounds. So it's kind of – the more you dig into it, it's kind of hard to – it gets – Harder to believe that they don't understand what they're doing is what I'm trying to say. So anyways, that whole thing is going to come up a little bit. more later on. They can know what they're doing and they can know they're working for a conspiracy, but does that mean all of them are Satanists? I think there's evidence as massive as a satanic conspiracy at the top, but I think it's also there's dupes and minions that are being pulled and being... promise material advancements and things like that perhaps but to say that they're all you know worshiping satan uh i i think that we don't have enough evidence to support that right well there's there's uh ignorant satan worship and then there's blatant satan worship i can definitely relate to the idea of ignorant satan worship in my life because you know i'm a sinner so i unbeknownst to me have been doing my part in creating and building Satan's kingdom.

So there's ignorance. There's the useful idiots as well. But yeah, as Rob said, definitely more is going to be revealed about this whole system and how it's designed to work in behalf of Satan and his kingdom. I do want to point out too that it is a lot more common, though, that it is blatant. It's not because of the people that are involved. And we trust like the news, they're going to report on things. Well, they don't tell you a lot of that stuff. And so it's a lot more common than you think. I just want to leave it at that. There's a lot that I know from my research over the years and places I've been and organizations I've been involved in to understand that what a lot of people don't know. For instance, I've seen magazines. um that were trying to recruit people to the priesthood of satan so it's a lot more common than people realize the the blatant satan worship so anyways i just wanted to say that right can i make one comment yeah go ahead who's this just this is samuel bigley oh hey go ahead so just along the lines of what mark was saying you look at even at the creation there how many fail with satan they felt like his plan was more feasible, was better.

And I think you would see the same thing even in these two worlds today, where people don't realize what they're doing. They twist things to such an extent where they actually believe they're doing the better, it's for the better, a greater cause. It's for the greater good. And you see it with communists. They don't even understand with the lack of understanding and the ignorance. They really believe that they're doing what's best. Right. Appreciate that. So moving on on this ritual, the high priest, basically of this religion, which is a world religion, say, it says, Nay, thou mocking spirit, speaking to dull care. It is not a dream. We know that thou waitest for us when this is our sylvan holiday.

This our sylvan holiday shall end and when we meet and we shall meet thee and fight thee as of old and some of us prevail against thee and some thou shalt destroy. But this too we know year after year within this happy grove our fellowship has banned thee for a space and thy benevolence that would pursue us here. has lost its power beneath these friendly trees. So shall we burn thee once again this night. And the flames, I find it interesting that they think that, I guess, that almost as if saying God is banished from this site, but the truth gets out eventually. And this script has found its way into many people's hands. So moving on, the owl in his leafy temple, let all within this grove be reverent before him. So basically the symbol of the owl, we could go into that, but that's a symbol of worldly wisdom as well as satanic worship right there.

The high priest, oh, thou great symbol of our mortal wisdom, owl of Bohemia, The word bohemia is translated in today. In today's word, it's basically the hippie movement, the tree huggers, the paganists. A lot of that, they don't know really what they're following as well, but it is satanic in its origins. We do beseech thee, grant us thy counsel. And then the voice of the owl says, No fire, if it be kindled from the world where care is nourished on the hates of men shall drive him from his grove. One flame alone must light this pyre, the pure eternal flame that burns within the lamp of fellowship upon the altar of Bohemia. So definitely at its roots, you have Albert Pike and his origins in Luciferianism. That which we must say to the crowd is we worship a god, but it is the lowercase g god, the one adores without superstition.

The Masonic religion should be by all of us initiates in the high degrees maintained in the purity of the Luciferian doctrine. uh you go into uh masonry and its origins and luciferianism as well it says yes lucifer is god lowercase g and unfortunately adonai um adonai is i think the greek version of god um is also is also god for the eternal law is there is no light without shade no beauty without ugliness no White without black for absolute can only exist as two gods. So there's this dualism as he's preaching. But Lucifer, God of light and God of good, is struggling for humanity against Adonai, the God of darkness and evil. So definitely a twist of calling good evil and evil good. And we know what the Bible says about that. So in the last days, men shall call evil good and good evil. So this Utah legislature speaks out of a near-death experience. He says, I faced judgment and I felt worthy. So one thing real quick, I'll just go back a little bit on this idea of it being mainstream.

A lot of what you see. Speakers like Ronald Reagan, for instance, could really put on a good speech and talk about God. But with conviction and even people like even more well-known ones like Adolf Hitler would talk about God all the time and use God and invoke God's name even. And with a lot of them. motion, but they knew exactly how to spin something so that the lowercase g god was the actual one they were talking about. Any comments on that? It hasn't ended. It's still going on. Right. Well, there's a really good quote that it was worded very strangely when somebody asked George W. Bush if he was a Christian. And I remember the way he said it, it was something like, well, if by Christian you mean do I believe in God, then yes. And I think that is exactly what you're talking about, where they're trying to say in a way where it's plausible that they meant what you think, but in fact they actually meant something entirely different. Right. This is Mark. Go ahead.

Two thoughts. When I was about 9 or 10, I was in my Bible class at church, and the teacher was teaching about the Antichrist. I remember how disturbed I was to learn that all these Christians are going to be fooled. And what is the Antichrist going to be doing? Coming back is pretending to be Jesus. And so one would have to assume he's going to be praising and saying good things about God. It's so important to not be deceived on anything, but especially these matters. And as for the quote, woe is those who call good evil and evil good, I've been thinking about in recent days how that is so, we see that happening everywhere, politically especially, where people are carrying out tyranny, are calling it liberation, and just everywhere you look. evil actions of people are being called good and we have to reject that right and we see all the time oftentimes God the word God being used in public speeches but who knows if they lowercase that in their mind or not who knows if they're which God they're speaking of so definitely something to think about as well but it's a lot more common than we think so this is David yeah we have to not accept anybody that starts uh talking scripture talking about god and positive life assume that they're sincere and there are many that say oh look he's Bible-carrying Christian just because they say something that's correct in the scriptures.

I think of our House, Speaker of the House, arguably the most powerful person in the federal government. I call it wrapping themselves in the Bible. And yet he's as able as the day is long in terms of carrying out the conspiracy's agenda and deceiving everywhere you look. I'm talking about Johnson. the speaker of the house. Right. I think it's important too to remember that Satan, if you're reading the New Testament, when Satan was tempting the Savior after the 40 days in the wilderness, he quoted scriptures constantly. That's all he did actually was quote scriptures and he was taking them out of context, but that was all he did. So I think that's why it's so important that we judge people by their fruits like I think Mark mentioned earlier. Right. Who was that who just spoke? Rob, I think. Rod. Rod, sorry.

So, yeah. So, also, at the same time, in the Bohemian Grove, you have a presentation of Pan, or I think it's called the Atonement, or something of Pan. Yeah, the Atonement of Pan. Yeah. The Greek fertility god. And basically, Pan means all. So basically, we see oftentimes in Satan's plan was to save all. Save them all. And we see that within communism, we're going to save all the workers. We're going to make everybody unite. This is going to be one utopian society. The atonement of Pan. And it's produced by the members of Bohemian Club in their grove in Sonoma County, California. So, yeah, this is also a thing that happens. Also here in Salt Lake, we have, it's actually presented, I think it was at the Deseret News or not Deseret News, Salt Lake Tribune, one of those.

You have a masquerade or a secret society or the secret Salt Lake, secret Salt Lake. Society, I believe, or Secret SLC. It's basically presenting almost like, to me, this kind of reminds me of the Squid Games type look, covering your face, not letting people know who you are, hiding your identity. The quote here says, Secret brings together hand-selected groups of artists through leaders, business, creators and cultural shapers from across the globe to be swept away in the magic of a world unknown, never to be spoken of again. So what happens at Secret SLC stays in Secret SLC. It's just another, almost like a ditty party in Salt Lake, if you know what I mean.

So the location details and the guest list of each experience is undisclosed. A lot of this stuff goes on. Right under our noses, Secret Circles, newest branch of the Secret SLC for Women Only. And it says here, Secret Society is a modern day ceremony using ancient feminine rituals with a 21st century twist. And you apply to this on their website. This is a quote from Dave Bateman who attended. It says, my friends, I said it was the most memorable event of our lives. It was like being a part of an art gallery that came to life around us, masterfully manifested in the core venue, performer personas, and perhaps the most delightfully in the unexpected minutiae of it all. They say money is the most wisely spent. they say money is most my wisely spent on experiences there is none other than this and secret slc and this is from fox 13 news anchor the best parties in salt lake city quote the best parties in salt lake city the list you want to be on so uh it's kind of uh the elite party list to be on we've just got just a few minutes uh so what's going on today um with Very poignant still, very still happening today.

I think this is the reason why this keeps coming up is that it really continues to place, continues to prove to us that there's no government accountability and that all of this is just going to keep happening. I think Bill Cosby released from prison recently. John Huntsman Jr. never been prosecuted or. basically off scot-free, Donald Trump. His name is clearly in the Epstein list and still does not, has never been, basically got off himself. And there's the quote recently to him saying, are you still talking about Epstein? Basically trying to change the subject. Rupert Murdoch, John Kerry, a bunch of big names still going on. And still, still never. had to answer for anything. And the Attorney General... Hold on. Go ahead. That last dude, Khashoggi, is somebody that most people don't know. He was a CIA asset, and he was a friend of Spencer W. Kimball, for those who know who that is. Who's that? The arms dealer? Correct. Say that again, Rod, because I didn't get the name.

The arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi. He was a CIA asset, and he was a close friend of Spencer W. Kimball, who was president of the LDS Church during the 80s, 70s and 80s, I think. Interesting. Yeah, I did not know that. What's his name again? Can you give it again? Sorry, real quick. I'll go back. Adnan Khashoggi. Oh, Adrian Khashoggi. Okay, got it. It's not Adrian, it's Adnan. A-D-N-A-N. A-D-N-A-N Khashoggi. Right there. Simon, real briefly, a psychological tactic of conspiracy uses all the time, and the communist countries used it all the time, is to have so much evil. and go without any justice, no responsive justice, that the people get desensitized to it. They sit there and accept it. One real brief scientific study with animals, with dogs, this is from decades ago, they would put these dogs in a kennel and in cages. or pens, and they would administer electric shocks where they would sit. And at first, dogs would try to flee. But they continued this, and the dogs eventually just sat there and took it. And that's what they're kind of doing all over the world, but especially here in America. They're giving us so much evil in our faces that's not being responded to with justice so that we will just not... have a human response to it and just sit there and take it. Feeling there's no hope, trying to instill that sense of no hope in us. And if we don't have hope, why are we going to fight? Basically desensitizing us as a population to all this.

And yeah, the Epstein cover-up recently entered into... Everything was on General Pamela Bondi's desk. She said, yeah, I'm looking at it. And then, hey, there's nothing to see here, folks. We went over this in detail a little bit ago, but still at large, still just a massive cover up and a massive distrust in any FBI investigation into this. So the quote, there will be no cover-ups, no missing documents, and no stone left unturned. And then nothing to see here, folks. Trump administration, if I can go into this, I'm running out of time, but is this supposed to end at 10, Rod? Yes. We sometimes go a little over. You're not too far from the end, though, if you want to just briefly read the titles or a couple of the quotes. Right. Yeah. So U.S. Justice Department finds no Epstein quote client list. It's interesting that the U.S. Justice Department doesn't find it, but we have it on the Tree of Liberty Society dot com. If you want to just go into our archives and there it is. Trump's name's there.

A whole bunch of big people's names are there. um yeah i find it so many so many big name actors big name uh celebrities but nothing to see here um this was july 9th of 2025 and then yeah this video we shouldn't assume all the names are really on that list i mean that there aren't some of the names deleted from that list right yeah who knows um i did find personally uh ivanka donald trump the Trumps, the Trump family, as well as, you know, you get big names like Chris Evans. One of them was, I believe, either Bono or, yeah, just a whole bunch of big names. And the list is people, first when I read it, I was like, this can't be, this is just a, a phone book what's the difference um but these are actually these are clients that he sold to so um but basically that doesn't know uh donald trump had a huge amount of contact with him they would go to parties again there's one tape uh where he and uh epstein were making the symbol of a heart with their fingers trump put his fingers uh half of his heart and epstein did the other one There's one where they're at a party where all these girls, they look like teenage girls, maybe some were young adults.

They were dancing with each other in this big room while Trump and Epstein was standing there watching them. I mean, if that isn't suspicious, I don't know. Well, especially considering they both work through the conspiracy. Well, it goes back to the, by your fruits, you shall know them. If you're promising to investigate this. And then you suddenly say, nothing to see here. That's a fruit of someone's heart. And definitely showed his true colors in not bringing people to justice, at the very least, that have been involved in this. And he knew the prosecutor who arrested Epstein originally and gave him the whole... Basically, the victims wouldn't even know what happened for about 10 years. So Trump knew this when he hired the chief prosecutor for the Department of State. So a lot of this is evidence of the fruits of what's happening, of these conspiracies. He was the attorney general. Then he was promoted to the cabinet, I believe, and then was let off after this.

Evidence shows that Trump knew about this deal that the Attorney General made with him before and how the victims would never take the stand, never be able to have justice. Yeah, the whole thing continues to fall apart today, even though the American people are bringing it up more and more. And it just seems to continue in popularity as the government keeps pushing this down. And Jelaine Maxwell, the supposed girlfriend, who is basically the recruiter for women, says no Jeffrey Epstein client list exists in the DOJ releases. as DOG releases interview recordings. So Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche conducted a questioning of Jeffrey Epstein's longtime lover and convicted accomplice.

So she was involved in this. And many people say Jeffrey Epstein couldn't have done this without her. Well, one thing to keep in mind as well is that one of the ones you just skipped a minute ago was talking about how she's in jail for 20 years. convicted because of being an accomplice to Jeffrey Epstein. But if there's no client list, what was she convicted of and why is she in jail? Right. Good point. So it's almost like a pre-exoneration of whatever, of everything she did. And so, yeah, this is poignant because you see in the book of Mormon, it says, quote, letting the guilty and the wicked go unpunished because of their money.

And we know that Jeffrey Epstein and all of his clients were either millionaires or billionaires. Therefore, they did combine against the people of the Lord and enter into a covenant to destroy them and to deliver those who were guilty of murder from the grasp of justice, which was about to be administered according to the law. We see that today with this whole cover up. Many people. I remember the narrative being like, oh, we're going to see arrests, we're going to see justice, and then nothing. So definitely, by your fruits, you shall know them statement there. It's very poignant today. So we see that happening in Utah as well. Is this David Levitt fleeing justice from Utah County, running away, getting away?

So who is this really retards we're fighting against or is this a carefully laid conspiracy? To me, the more and more I research into this, the more I think I'm the retard if I believe that this is the retards, so to speak. So I believe it's a double. Again, people who are the elites being able to say what they want to make the laws. These people will turn back around, make the laws and make us beg for this. This is my please may I collect rainwater. And you got the elitist saying, no, you can't do that. The earth matters more, more than people, more than more than life and liberty. So why do we want? Do we want the blessings of liberty or the chains of peace?

This quote says, but if we want, but what if we get in trouble? Said no founding father ever. So I'm running overtime, but basically we must correct our course. We can't vote harder, write strongly written letters, sue. None of this is working because the system is rigged against us. None of these things work. We must use our God-given rights, the ones the founding fathers laid out, such as permission is granted to us by God, not by man. Nullification is the only way this works and defend our rights if challenged. Individual education helps you assert your God-given rights. So an educated community recognizes the truth. and that's what we're getting we're we're uh striving for every day is the full truth the culture upholds true principles or the culture of truth um any i think there's a missed one liberty-minded people will defend your rights so we need to be a liberty-minded people and i think that's it let's go back to this and i think we'll turn real quick have uh If not, I'll ask Rod. You go ahead, Rod.

Heavenly Father, we are grateful. Heavenly Father, we are grateful. Father, we're grateful that we could be here tonight to discuss these things. And we ask you to please bless us and help us. Help us to understand. Help us to see things as they really are. Help us to live according to the things that we know are true and right. And bless us in our efforts as we try to share these things with others. We say these things in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.