Member Training – Scriptural Foundations In Understanding & Stopping The Conspiracy

Member training from March 10th, 2025. In this meeting, Rod covers the scriptural overview of the conspiracy and how to stop it from a scriptural perspective. 

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TRANSCRIPT

Our Father in heaven, as we pause to begin this meeting with prayer, we are grateful for this opportunity to come together for the knowledge that Ben imparts and the comments that are made that enlighten us. We're grateful for the camaraderie we have and the like-minded ideas that bring us together. We pray thy spirit to be here with us this night and help us to learn things that matter as we try to do things that we care about in our country and to support liberty. And we say this in the name of our Savior, Jesus Christ, amen. Amen.

Thank you so much, Pam. On the website we have here, I'm just going to show that real quick. On the website, we have up the pre-order for the new edition of Invasion. So just for clarity again, it is both volume one and two, with a section or two that's new. so probably you know five to ten pages of new things and um it also has uh killing no murder in it the original translation as well as a um a modern translation of it to make it easier to read and so that's that'll be coming it'll be released on october 6th i mean i'm sorry not october 6th april 6th april 6th and um so encourage you to go if you to pre-order the book. And then going into the member portal changes on there, just wanted to show you what's going on there. Much more easy to find different months and kind of settle things down on the trainings.

And then on the right, you have the different ideas and then the things that are associated with that, the documents that go along with it. And so, for example, you click on Alta Club and it has their biography, their newsletter or one of their newsletters, bylaws, you know, different their membership pamphlet, different things like that. So for all the different areas in this, there's you can click on their name or the organization or the publications and be able to look at the documents for those individuals. Those are some neat things that we have. Encourage everyone to check out. And today, what I, well, so I've got some really neat things coming up that we're working on. I'm really looking forward to sharing them with you. But tonight, I've asked Rod to do training, present to us tonight.

i wasn't sure so i'm i'm feeling pretty under the weather uh rod has been under the weather so i wasn't sure if he was going to do this it was kind of like just the last minute thing of of knowing when not last minute thing putting together but knowing which thing we were going to do so because i'm feeling under the weather i'm just going to kind of mute everyone and then um give give the floor to him and then if everyone if you've got a comment or a question just put it over in the chat And I'll respond or, you know, we can or we can hold it till after the presentation is done and discuss further. So with that, hopefully, Rod, you've got the ability to share. Right, Rod?

There you go. And let me just make you. Am I unmuted? Oh, there you go. OK. It wouldn't let me do it a minute ago. Cool deal. All right. Everybody can see the slide, I hope. uh i just we see your file folder there we go full screen perfect so we and now we see two slides why why is it doing this so you can see the one that says current index correct oh my goodness where's my mouse quick how do i change that oh shoot i do not see how to swap it what is it the icon next to the x Oh, those were covered up by the Zoom ones. Oh, my goodness. Is that better? Yep. Sorry, the Zoom controls were covering my controls for the presentation. I apologize. I also have to apologize in advance. I have been sick for the past week, and so I have a cough drop in my mouth. If it makes noise, I apologize, and I will try not to cough during the presentation. So back on February 10th, Ben ran our discussion, our training. And he talked about some of the differences between being religious and being spiritual. And so you guys actually might remember he talked about the origins of spirituality in this philosophy called theosophy.

He also talked a little bit about the false prophets of spirituality that are in popular music and other media. the introduction of hallucinogenic drugs that people have used to coerce kind of pseudo-spiritual experiences over the years. One of the most important points, though, that Ben made in that presentation was this, that spirituality is the idol of self. So if you're spiritual instead of religious, you are not actually looking for the truth, right? You don't care. You don't want definite answers. You want to just be able to claim whatever your truth is, right? I mean, that's a term, stupid term, but it's something that we hear these days. That's my truth, right? Whatever the heck that means. People like that because I can change my truth anytime I want to, right? Anytime the situation changes and it becomes convenient, I can change whatever my... my quote-unquote truth is, so I don't actually care what truth is. Now, this has always been the case with idolatry, as we're going to see here on the next slide, which is a quote from Isaiah 48. I have declared the former things from the beginning, and they went forth out of my mouth, and I showed them.

I did them suddenly, and they came to pass. Because I knew that thou art obstinate, and thy neck is an iron sinew, and thy brow brass, I have even from the beginning declared it to thee. Before it came to pass, I showed it thee, lest thou should say mine idol hath done them, and my graven image and my molten image hath commanded them. Thou hast heard, see all this, and will ye not declare it? I have showed thee new things from this time, even hidden things, and thou didst not know them. So what's happening here in this passage is that the Lord is explaining to rebellious Israel that he always tells them what's going to happen beforehand so that they can't give credit to their stupid idols and so that they can know that he alone is God. And if they want truth, It'll be clear in whom they can trust, right? The God who knows everything and can tell you way in advance. If you decide, you know, you're going to put your trust in some dumb figure that you carved out of a stone or somebody else poured into a mold and filled with gold, right? That's your own choice. That's your own problem. That thing cannot tell you.

The former things from the beginning, like God can. One of the things is that we've had people like the Jehovah's Witnesses who have proclaimed dates for the second coming multiple times, and then these guys in particular, Jehovah's Witnesses, specifically decided that when their date was wrong once again, that, well, you know, Jesus actually had come back, but it had happened in some kind of undefined spiritual way. And that's kind of the problem with... quote-unquote spiritual things, right? There's nothing definite about them. It's just whatever you feel like. The spiritual are going to flounder in confusion while the religious take the teachings of the prophets in the plain and precious manner in which they were given. Joseph Smith taught the following. He said, everything that we have not a key word to, we will take it as it reads.

The beasts which John saw and speaks of being in heaven, We're actually living in heaven, and we're actually to have power given to them over the inhabitants of the earth, precisely according to the plain reading of the revelations. I give this as a key to the elders of Israel. So there's some things that we're told are key words, and so you keep that in mind when you're reading and interpreting. But Joseph Smith said, look, when you're not given a key word, just read it like it says. It means what it says. Now in that same book, in Teaches of the Prophet Joseph Smith, The prophet also taught us that we never can comprehend the things of God and of heaven, but by revelation. We may spiritualize and express opinions to all eternity, but that is no authority. So you've got, like in the New Testament, they talk about how those people, I think it was Paul who went to preach, and there were the people that, it was the schools of the Greek philosophers and stuff, and they would meet. and just jibber-jabber and give their rhetoric all day, every day, ever learning and never coming to a knowledge of the truth.

They didn't care. They actually cared more about just hearing themselves speak and seeing who could come up with the most clever idea. That's all it was about. And that's really what spiritualizing is about as well. But what we want is truth. We want to know what's actually going on. What did happen, what is happening, what will happen in the future, that's what revelation is. So revelation is key. God doesn't reveal vague, feel-good notions, right? He doesn't have to, because like I said, he knows exactly what's going to happen. And the scriptures tell us the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealed his secret unto his servants, the prophets. So if he's going to do it, he's going to tell a prophet, because just like that first verse that we read, He wants us to know in whom we can trust, so he tells us ahead of time, every time.

And then the prophets deliver those revelations to us, and we're free to believe them, in which case we can also know exactly what's going to happen, what is happening, and what happened in the past. In the teachings of the prophet Joseph Smith, he also taught us, look, the past, the present, and the future were and are with him one eternal now. There is not a thing that is a surprise to God ever. And therefore, he can tell us what did happen, what is happening, what is going to happen in the future. Now, before we proceed too much further into the lesson tonight, I think it's important that we define one more term, and that is what faith is. And I've learned over the years that faith is actually synonymous with trust. If you keep this in mind, it'll make a lot more sense when you read things like James 1.22, where he says, but be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. You heard it. You believe God. Do you trust him? How much do you believe him?

I apologize. If you believe him, you actually trust him, then you do what he says. So faith... trust her synonyms. If you don't take action on his words, they are meaningless. Now the scriptures also inform us that the thing that hath been, it is that which shall be. And that which is done is that which shall be done. And there is no new thing under the sun. Ecclesiastes 1.9 We've got to keep that in mind. There's literally nothing new ever. Some of you guys might have lived through the 60s and saw Bell Bottoms and then noticed like in the 90s they brought Bell Bottoms back again. And wow, what was this cool new trend, right? No, it wasn't. It was the exact same stupid thing from 30 years ago. It was dumb then and it was dumb later when they brought it back. The point being, there's no new thing under the sun. So everything that's going on now are things that have already happened in the past as well. because things happen in cycles. Things happen in cycles. Those of us who attended seminary with the LDS Church, that's one of the things that we were taught there. You've got the pride cycle.

That's a cycle that civilizations go through. The people are righteous, and then they're blessed, and because they're blessed, they become prideful. Because they're prideful, they act wickedly, and then they get destruction, which humbles them. And then they become righteous again, right? And it goes around and around and around. It's all cycles. That's the way humanity works. But there's a reason that I'm bringing this up right here. We're kind of setting the footing, kind of the background, so that we can be taught how to identify what the scriptures refer to as secret combinations. And I decided to cover this topic tonight because when we talk about things like skull and bones, and we point out what the conspirators are doing, the things that they're doing are not obvious, okay?

And so we always have people demanding, well, how do you know? How do you know this is what they're doing? Okay? So tonight, we're going to show you exactly how we know, which is exactly how you can know, too, for yourself, that this is what they're doing. So let's go to 2 Nephi 2. chapter 26, verse 22. I'm sorry, 2 Nephi 26, verse 22. And we're told that in the last days there are also secret combinations, even as in times of old, according to the combinations of the devil. For he is the founder of all these things, yea, the founder of murder and works of darkness. Yea, and he leadeth them by the neck with a flaxen cord until he bindeth them with his strong cords forever. All right. So let's break it down here. This is a really cool verse because it's like compact. There's a million points here that need to be brought out. Number one, secret combinations, i.e. conspiracies, are real. If you doubt that conspiracies exist, you have some serious cause to repent because A, they're all over the scriptures and B, verses like this are specifically throwing it in your face. And also, we also learned from this verse that Not only are these secret combinations real, but they've existed in all times. So we can know, just like that last one that we did, the last verse that we read here, there's nothing new under the sun, that which is done is that which shall be done, right? So he says here in this verse, they've existed, secret combinations, in all times.

So if they used to be, then they are now, and they will be in the future. Now, why is that important to know? We also learn here that these secret combinations are founded by Satan, that second to the third line there, according to the combinations of the devil, for he is the founder of all these things. Satan has existed from the beginning, and as we're going to learn later, we'll see from some other scriptural passages that I want to share, that Satan established secret combinations, almost day one, right from the beginning of what we have in the scriptures. He was already doing this. It's so effective that this is one of his primary patterns. And he just rolls it out over and over and over and over and over again over the years. So men are the hands, but Satan is always the head of the secret combinations. And I've had this discussion with people before, but I want to point out now, just as God's church would have a head, so would Satan's church. Okay?

Just as God gives revelations to his followers, so does Satan. There are revelations of darkness that come from hell that lead and guide these people to the things that they do. And their ultimate goals are always in opposition to God's laws and principles. That's a key right there. The goals of the secret combination are always in opposition to God's laws and principles. Now, I gave a fireside one night about studying the scriptures. And one of the things that I pointed out in that fireside was that when Jesus fasted for 40 days, then the last thing that happened at the end of that, was that Satan came to him and tempted him. You guys might recall this. I hope you do. This is where Satan took him up on the pinnacle of the temple and said, you know, throw yourself down and all these things. But what I pointed out from that, and you'll want to go look it up yourself at some point to verify that this is true, but it is. Everything that Satan said to Jesus was out of the scriptures.

All the temptations and the things he was trying to get him to do Twisting scriptural passages and taking them out of context. And so the way that Jesus responded every single time was to return scripture for scripture. So Satan was telling him some things. Does it not say this here? That the Son of God should not dash his foot against the stone? Maybe it said that somewhere, but Christ returned, responded. with another passage of scripture to show that what Satan was trying to tell him to do with that was actually false. We've got to take all the scriptures in context together, right? And that's a lesson to us as well. But my point here is that Satan knows the scriptures better than any of us. And we have a passage in the Old Testament that says, my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. That's the reason. That we are destroyed for lack of knowledge because Satan comes out, he gives us stupid ideas, and a lot of them he can make sound great because he can show you where they are in the scriptures. And because we are ignorant of the scriptures, we are destroyed because of that lack of knowledge.

So that's the reason that it's so important for us to always have our noses in the book and knowing what's there because it says the Holy Ghost will bring all things to our remembrance. That's why we need that. We need the other passages brought to our remembrance to counter these things from Satan. I also want to point out again, because Satan knows the scriptures really well, he knows what God wants to be done, and so he knows how to do the exact opposite in every case. All right, I don't want to belabor that point. We'll go on a little bit further. One of the other points here. I'm sorry, I was supposed to be showing the slides here. Founded by Satan. The next point here is that they practice murder, the secret combinations. Murder, by definition, is the shedding of innocent blood. Therefore, it necessarily includes things like abortion, genocide, communist pogroms, vaccine deaths, deaths of the innocent in government facilities, death by properly prescribed medications, coerced suicides, and more. Anything that's murder, anything that's the shedding of innocent blood, all of these things fall under the purview of murder, and these are the things that Satan is actively implementing constantly. Constantly. Okay? Their works are works of darkness.

These are all still some of the points from that verse that we read. So while it's not necessarily obvious at first, The fact that they're works are works of darkness, there's actually two different ways we can read that. The first one we would take from Isaiah 520, which says, Woe unto them that put darkness for light and light for darkness. Meaning on the one hand that this means that conspiracies are deliberately replacing light with darkness. We'll talk about this again in a minute because we're going to discuss what I call the cult of death, but I think you guys can see this, replacing light with darkness in the world and in our culture. In fact, there was a really good article that Ben put up about a month ago, and it was about art. And how the communists have come in and replaced good art with horrible art.

Because then there's no beauty around us in the world. There's nothing to reflect godliness. I highly recommend you go and read that article. It was a fantastic one. On the other hand, you can also, while we're talking about their works are works of darkness, you can also interpret that according to Isaiah 29.15, which says that they seek deep to hide their counsel from the Lord, and their works are in the dark. This means that they typically don't want anybody to know what they're doing. And this is why we have to rely on the scriptures, revelation, research, and yes, sometimes even simple deductive reasoning, which we had mentioned during the skull and bones expose from last week. Deductive reasoning. We're literally doing forensics, okay? There's a reason that detectives and cops have to do forensics at like a murder scene. Because the people that committed these works, wanted them kept in the darkness they don't want to get caught they don't want anybody to know that they did it and find the evidence that leads back to them so they do their damnedest to hide it from everybody right so forensics comes in and then they have to look and find a fingerprint here and a hair over there right they're looking for all the little bits and pieces and that literally is how we end up doing things a lot of time when we are studying conspiracies. We have to find those little things where they were sloppy. And then the very last step here, the last point from that verse was that one of Satan's patterns is to lead people by the neck with a flaxen cord. I'm sorry. Oh, there it is. Lead people by the neck with a flaxen cord. Or, in other words, in softer... He leads them in softer, seemingly insignificant ways until he binds us with his strong cords forever. So there's a couple different names for that. You've heard of a bait and switch. That's one. You've also heard of the slippery slope.

That's another. He knows how to get his foot in the door or, you know, what do they say? The camel get their nose under the tent or whatever, right? Come in little by little until there's a camel standing in the tent with you. Satan does these things the same way. He gets you hooked this little teeny piece at a time. That's the flaxen cord. But once he's got enough of those, have you ever looked at a rope? You'll notice that a rope is not one solid piece. It's a whole bunch of tiny thin threads together, which is the way that Satan does things. So he gets us a little thread at a time until he has a solid rope that we have hung ourselves with. Now, we've got Mosiah 16.9 in the Book of Mormon. It says that Christ is the light and the life of the world. And you'll notice that these secret combinations operate according to death and darkness. Like I said earlier, the opposite. So this establishes one of Satan's patterns that we have to keep in mind as we are bringing to light all the hidden things of darkness. And this is where I was referring to earlier, the cult of death. So you've got skulls and skeletons everywhere you look, including baby clothes, movies, music videos, stickers and books for elementary school kids. I mean, it's ridiculous. But of all things, I would probably say it's the most obvious in the music industry right now. It's not a surprise. You'll see it. It's everywhere. It's the cult of death. Cult of death.

Don't surround yourself with light and life. Surround yourself with death and darkness. That is the culture that we live in in our day. Now, what else do we know about secret combinations from the scriptures? Check this out. Ether 825. Whoso buildeth it up, seek it to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries, and bring it to pass the destruction of all people. Well, if you're overthrowing the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries, what are you doing? You're establishing a global government, or what we refer to as the New World Order, right? That's literally what you're doing. I think this is a really important point.

Because again, the secret combinations existed over all the years since the beginning of time. The goals have always been the same. The abilities have been less. And in the day that we live in right now, they have the ability and the power and the technology to enslave the whole world, which they never have had before. They refer to it as the whole world, right? Because it was like the known countries or whatever, right? But literally at this moment, they can overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries and bring to pass the destruction of all people. They literally can do that. right now. But that's just a conspiracy theory, right? Wrong. Just like we started talking about in the beginning, God foresaw it and he forewarned us. That's why these things are in the scriptures. If we're reading them and paying attention, then we can receive the warnings that he put there for us. And this stuff is all over the scriptures. You'll notice, I mean, people want to say, like, oh, there's a lot of this in the Book of Mormon, and so if we just take that as bunk, then this doesn't exist. No, that's nonsense. Because you've noticed already, I've used Isaiah from the, and Ecclesiastes from the Old Testament. I've quoted things from the New Testament already.

This stuff is all over the scriptures, period, because this is how it's been from the beginning of time until now, until the day that the Savior comes. This is the way that Satan does things. So the next question is, who are the primary players involved? Guess what? Scriptures tell us that too. Alma 10, 27, the foundation of the destruction of this people is beginning to be laid by the unrighteousness of your lawyers and your judges. Anybody surprised there? You shouldn't be. So how does this work? If there are destructions laid by the unrighteousness of our lawyers and our judges? A little bit later, this is Alma. Next book after Alma is Helaman, and this is what we read in Helaman. And seeing the people in a state of such awful wickedness, and those Gadiant and robbers filling the judgment seats, okay, real quick code word there in the Book of Mormon, Gadiant and robbers, they are a secret combination. Having usurped the power and authority of the land, laying aside the commandments of God, not in the least a right before him, doing no justice unto the children of men, condemning the righteous because of their righteousness, letting the guilty and the wicked go unpunished because of their money, and moreover to be held in office at the head of government to rule and do according to their wills that they might get gain and glory of the world, and moreover that they might the more easily commit adultery and steal. and kill and do according to their own wills. Can I get an amen? Does this describe...

Now, does this describe everything you hear on the news? Yes. Yes, it does. Because times repeat themselves. So this is another one of those that's just packed. Let's go back and look at these two verses real quick. What are the lawyers and judges going to do? They're going to usurp the power and authority of the land. This is a point that Ben is always making. The Constitution gave them limited authority. And they come in and twist the plain and precious meanings of the Constitution as given to us by God, and they use the new lies and twisted definitions to usurp the power and authority of the land. Then they ensure that no actual justice is served. Isn't that interesting? How nothing true and right and just ever happens? We don't have a justice system. My dad worked in 20 years as a prison guard at Folsom Prison in the California Department of Corrections. And he always told us, kids, there is no justice system in America. It's a legal system. Legal meaning laws. And the laws don't have to be just, do they? They just have to be in place. Once they've usurped the power and authority, they make laws around that. Around the usurpation of authority. It doesn't matter. There's no justice. But I want you to keep that one in mind as well. Because you'll notice things happen. And you've got these supposed, you know, quote unquote conservative organizations. They always act like they're out there to help push good things. And so they take all your money and they send it to Washington and they start a lawsuit and everybody gets their hopes up and then zero things ever happen ever. No one ever goes to justice.

The perpetrators don't go to jail and the good people are rarely let out. You know, I'll talk about January 6th for a minute, right? That was BS from start to finish. The government, the cops opened the gates and escorted all the people in. And then, oh no, it's an uprising. They're taking over the country. Except they're a bunch of old people just wandering around. And they've been in jail for years. They may eventually get out. I think some of them did recently, right? But that's not justice that they were in there for years and they hadn't actually committed a crime. Okay, what else? They're going to condemn the righteous. Again, this goes hand in hand. They hate your guts if you're righteous. They hate you for being righteous. They hate you for representing righteousness. They let the guilty and the wicked go unpunished. This is one that I could talk for hours on. One that I've mentioned in the past is when we've talked about satanic ritual abuse.

There are people like... Let's see, a man by the name of Mark Dutro. Mark Dutro caught multiple times. Some girls escaped. They were kidnapped. He was leading a ring that was kidnapping teenage girls, and then they were being taken to a castle where they were raped by judges. And lawyers. And kings and princes. And prime ministers. And the girls knew who these people were. So usually they were killed. Two girls got out. They went to the authorities. They had the guy arrested. It took a lot to get him arrested. But the thing is. Lo and behold. He had been arrested multiple times. And he always got out. Either he quote unquote. Escaped somehow. from the cops en route to the prison or some kind of silly thing. Or they let them off on a legal technicality.

Let the guilty and the wicked go unpunished. Why? Because they're one of us. And we need them to keep facilitating the wickedness that we want to perpetrate. And then they keep themselves and their buddies in office at the head of government so they can rule and do according to their wills, get the gain and glory of the world, commit adultery, Jeffrey Epstein, steal, kill, and do according to their own wills. And we discussed not long ago how that is the law of Thelema. Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. That is a satanic principle. And here it is. The lawyers and the judges are practicing this and they're facilitating it for others. Well, They can't do it alone, though, so how do they get others to participate? Well, guess what? The scriptures are happy to explain that one to us as well. And it came to pass that those who were desirous that Pahoran should be dethroned from the judgment seat were called king men, for they were desirous that the law should be altered in a manner to overthrow the free government and to establish a king over the land. Notice the pattern, overthrow the free government.

Now those who were in favor of kings were those of high birth, and they sought to be kings. Again, does that describe our day? How many of you know that Gavin Newsom is Nancy Pelosi's nephew? Did you know that? These people, it's nepotism all the way up. And they were supported by those who sought power and authority over the people. So we're the special people. We're going to be the kings. And the rest of you peons, well, support us and we'll put you in power and authority under us. We're going to need other people under us to actually make things happen, right? And so that's how they scratch each other's back. Those are the promises that they make to people to get them to do these things. Now, it's important that we return back to the subject of the secret combinations working in the darkness like we talked about before. Because we have not addressed. one of the key tenets of their practice, which is secret oaths and covenants. Now, a friend of mine, Christian Markham, wrote a book, There are Save Two Churches Only. I edited both volumes of that. And in his book, he said, those who are connected to conspiratorial entities may come from completely different backgrounds and may appear wholly and completely unconnected in every way.

Yet, they're able to identify each other through symbols, signs, and key phrases. Additionally, they are oath-bound, many of them bound in blood oaths, in supporting, defending, and upholding each other. This shouldn't be too big of a surprise to any of you, because we know that this is the way that Skill and Bones operates. And if you are in Thursday night's live stream, then you're aware that this is the way that the Alfalfa Club works as well. And if you remember back... Some of the photographs of the people that are in attendance at the Alfalfa Club. You've got Barack Obama chumming it up with Mitt Romney and Mitch McConnell. Chief Justice Roberts, all these so-called conservatives, and yet he's a total commie liberal, okay? Because they appear wholly and completely unconnected in every way. And yet, they have an oath that binds them together. That's the way these secret combinations work. That's the point of the secret societies.

Also from my friend Christian's book, about 10 pages later, he says, many Christian in LDS, Christians and LDS are well-versed in these matters, for it is frequently discussed as part of the Adam and Eve story. However, the next parts are often glossed over, not contemplated deeply, or sometimes completely ignored. In verses 27 and 28 of Moses 5, we read, And Adam and his wife mourned before the Lord because of Cain and his brethren. And it came to pass that Cain took one of his brother's daughters to wife, and they loved Satan more than God. Adam and Eve mourned Cain and his brethren. See, that's the phrase used. Adam and Eve had many children. Cain was merely one of the older ones. Cain had caused and was the leader of a rebellion of a portion of his brothers and sisters against their parents. This was a sizable group of individuals, not just Cain and a handful of others. And if we continue in verses 29 and 30 there in Moses 5, And Satan said unto Cain, Swear unto me by thy throat, and if thou tell it, thou shalt die. And swear thy brethren by their heads, and by the living God, and that they tell it not.

For if they tell it, they shall surely die. And this that thy father may not know it. And this day I will deliver thy brother Abel into thine hands. And Satan swear unto Cain that he would do according to his commands. And all these things were done in secret. So here it is. The origin of conspiracy. Not only is the first secret combination introduced, but also the manner of its oaths within the LDS Church's canonized scripture. It's right there. We have no excuse to claim that we don't believe these things. It's there from the very beginning. You know, keep in mind I'm saying that this is quoted from Moses. Moses is an oversized chunk of the JST from Genesis. Okay? This is... Genesis that's been lost to the rest of the world but restored to us. The Lord wants us to know these things. This is how Satan works. And many, many years later, we read about what happened to the Jaredites here in America. It says, Now the daughter of Jared was exceedingly fair. And it came to pass that she did talk with her father and said unto him, Whereby hath my father so much sorrow? Hath he not read the record which our fathers brought across the great deep? Behold, is there not an account concerning them of old that they by their secret plans did obtain kingdoms in great glory?

Remember, overthrowing the freedom of the nations. And it came to pass that Achish gathered in unto the house of Jared all his kinfolk and said unto them, Will ye swear unto me that ye will be faithful unto me, and the thing which I shall desire of you? And it came to pass that they all swear unto him by the God of heaven, and also by the heavens, and also by the earth, and by their heads, that whoso should vary from the assistance which Achish desired should lose his head. And whoso should divulge whatsoever thing Achish made known unto them, the same should lose his life, which I imagine would happen if you lost your head. And it came to pass that thus they did agree with Achish. And Anchish did administer unto them the oaths which were given by them of old who also sought power, which had been handed down even from Cain, who was a murderer from the beginning. And they were kept up by the power of the devil to administer these oaths unto the people, to keep them in darkness, to help such as sought power to gain power, and to murder, and to plunder, and to lie, and to commit all manner of wickedness and whoredoms. And then just a couple chapters later, the same thing happens again. Different, slightly different group of people.

And in the days of calm, there began to be robbers in the land. And you got a note here once again, just like with the Gadianton robbers, like I pointed out earlier, when they're talking about these robbers, typically they're talking about secret combinations. In the days of calm, there began to be robbers in the land and they adopted the old plans and administered oaths after the manner of the ancients. and sought again to destroy the kingdom. So Calvin and his buddies adopted their old plans, administered the same oaths, and likewise sought to destroy freedom and take over the kingdom. Again, cycle, cycle, cycle, cycle, over and over and over again. Some things never change. In the book, There Are Saved Two Churches Only, Volume 1, there's a quote from Professor Hugh Nibley, and he explains that there are some important elements. that are often overlooked when discussing secret combinations, and the first is what we refer to as the Mahan Principle.

The story begins with Satan seeking to promote himself even in the premortal existence, and being cast out of heaven in his pride, and dedicating himself upon his fall to the destruction of this earth, for he knew not the mind of God. He boasts just how he plans to put the world under his bloody and horrible misrule. He will control the world economy by claiming possession of the earth's resources, and by manipulation of its currency, gold and silver, he will buy up the political, military, and ecclesiastical complex and run everything his way. We see him putting his plan into operation when he lays legal claim to the whole earth as his estate, accusing others of trespass, but putting everything up for sale to anyone. who has the money. And how will they get the money? By going to work for him. He not only offers employment, but a course of instruction in how the whole thing works, teaching the ultimate secret, that great secret of converting life into property.

Cain got the degree of Master Mahan, tried the system out on his brother and gloried its brilliant success, declaring that at last he could be free. as only property makes free, and that Abel had been a loser in a free competition. The discipline was handed down through Lamech, and finally became the pattern of the world's economy. Cain slew his brother Abel for the sake of getting gain, not in a fit of pique, but by careful business planning, by the conspiracy. The great secret he learned from Satan was the art of converting life into property, all life, even eternal life. The exchange of eternal life for worldly success is in fact the essence of the classic pact with the devil. There is no question of having some of both. You cannot serve two masters, the one being Mammon. If you try to have it both ways, by putting off the final settlement, says Amulek, the spirit of the Lord hath withdrawn from you and has no place in you, and the devil hath all power over you. One may see may end at work all around from the mafia whose adherence to the principle needs no argument down to the drug pusher, the arms dealer, the manufacturer and seller of defective products. or those who poison the air and water as a shortcut to gain and thus shorten and sicken the lives of all their fellow creatures. So what is the Mahan principle? It's the art of converting life into property. Guess what? Your children are given this in soft ways.

Have you ever played a video game? What is the most basic principle of almost every video game? You kill a monster and you get some gold. You kill a monster and you get some points in its place. Right? You convert their life into property that you benefit from. I apologize. I haven't been following the chat because I can't see it while I'm doing my thing here. You're good. I'm following it for you. Oh, perfect. Okay. Thank you. I was hoping somebody would speak up. My mouse keeps disappearing. All right. Okay, so if you think about the list I read off earlier, talking about the Mahan principle, look, abortions, genocides, communist pogroms. Tell me if any of these are converting life into property. Vaccine deaths? Can you tell us what a pogrom is? Well, that's when they march out and they are killing the big groups of people. Got it. So you've got the killing fields in Cambodia. They took all the people that wore glasses, all the smart people and whatever, right? And they took them all out and just murdered them. But everything that the commies do, I was using these as examples, but you've got innocent people dying in government facilities, death by properly prescribed medications, all this stuff, all of it is... A life that ends up getting converted into property or wealth one way or another.

Now, let's see. On page 42 of Christian's book, he explains the other important element that I think we miss about secret combinations. And that starts with a quote from Moses 5.51. He says, For from the days of Cain there was a secret combination, and their works were in the dark, and they knew every man his brother. Every secret combination initiate knew every other initiate. This phrase is not merely saying that they could tell each other apart from non-initiates. Consider the wording. Would the Lord feel it necessary to state that these men were aware of each other? Or that they sealed their dark works with a perversion of divine procreation? Sodomy is a part of the oath and bond of the initiates of secret combinations. As a marriage covenant is consummated on the wedding night, so the initiation into Lucifer slash Satan-bound secret organizations is sealed with the act of sodomy. God creates, Satan imitates. This verse reveals that the male homosexual act not only existed long before the vices of the city of Sodom and Gomorrah, but that from the start it was an integral aspect of secret society initiation.

And I would point out that this is an important key here because whenever we see the culture ripening for destruction, we also see the proliferation of homosexuality. Look at our culture right now. Look at our culture right now. Not just America even, the whole world. What does that tell us about the secret societies? They are everywhere. And they have more power now than they have ever had before. Now, one of the last things to know about them, we kind of touched on a little bit earlier about the secret combinations, is that they're satanic. Because they're satanic, they follow the satanic patterns of behavior that are outlined in the scriptures. So this includes mimicry and mockery of God's patterns and principles. It includes... coercion and control, which we see in efforts like transhumanism, AI, and biometrics. And this just about wraps it up. But as we've seen, there truly is nothing new under the sun, and God has seen all of it beforehand. And one of the first steps in defeating one's enemy is to know him. The scriptures make all of these things clear to our view, which gives us the advantage so now you can understand as we go through you can see the power here when we understand these principles we know the qualities to look for the lord has told us by their fruits you shall know them and then all through the scriptures he lays out the fruit over and over and over again now we had to be careful in some ways because the book of mormon describes how some of the uh the prophets didn't want to um include the details of how the secret combinations worked, because they didn't want to just hand it to somebody in the future on a silver platter, but because Satan is Satan, he's not above re-revealing those wicked things to people, and so we know that he has.

But we can go through and we can glean enough truth to understand what is going on, what they are doing, and all of this points us in the right direction. tells us what to be looking for. So when we are reading through new bills that they're trying to pass, if it falls into these principles here, then we know exactly who's behind it. Ben sent me one the other day, one of the bills that they're trying to pass right now here in Utah. And the whole thing that the bill is doing is establishing a, I'm trying to think of the phrase that they used. It was some brand new department. was unelected, unaccountable, a subsidiary. Was that the word, Ben, that they used? A subsidiary of the state government? Yeah, it was a new, it was Deseret. Was it Deseret? It was... Beehive. Beehive. Thank you. Yeah, and it was like a new authority over the land. It was a land authority bill.

Yeah, and the whole point of it, when we read it through, was that they would have the authority, the sole authority, unaccountable to the people to implement Agenda 2030. to put in place the garbage, pack-em-stack-em housing and all that stuff. That's what the whole deal is about. It's all right there. But the point is, again, when you know the principles, you know what the fruit is, then you know exactly what tree it's coming from. And that is all I had for tonight. I hope that was helpful or useful in some way. I feel like it's a key for all of us. We want to know. that we're doing the right thing. None of us want to be barking up the tree or, you know, doing stupid things. Just be a, you know, what they want you to think about conspiracy theorists, right? You're just crazy. You just come up with stupid ideas. No, all of this stuff comes out of the scriptures. And if we believe the scriptures, we know they're true, then we know exactly what we're looking for. Back to you, Dave.

Thanks. Hey, thank you, Rod. Appreciate the time that you spent on putting that together and also being willing to give it tonight while we're both sick. So thank you so much. Let's go ahead and officially close the meeting. Then we can have a little bit of back and forth on any questions on what Rod covered tonight. But since both of us are not feeling well, we're not going to have too much time of... of open forum. We're just going to have some questions and answers for you after we have the prayer. And it's really important what Rod went over tonight because if we understand these patterns, we don't need somebody to come up with a new article saying, look at this bill. We don't need somebody to come out and say, look at this new person in government. We understand the principles. We can identify them for ourselves. And that's really the empowering thing so that we can make sure that we're not spinning our wheels. that we're not spending our time on the things that the conspiracy is designed for us to waste our time on. So thank you again. Let's go ahead and have a closing prayer.

And I'd like to ask Joyce Mitchell, if you'd give that for us. Hard to do everything.

Okay. Father in heaven, we're thankful for... The information that thou has blessed us to have in these days to recognize the conspiracy and the efforts of Satan and those who follow him to overthrow liberty throughout the world. And we pray that thou will help us to continue to care and to receive thy voice and to know what to do, each one of us, and to report it. in that form we have so that we can truly be a society that is accountable and sharing with one another. We pray in the name of Jesus Christ.