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The Leaked Memo They Tried to Bury: Bishop Glenn Pace’s Final Interview

Posted by Ben McClintock, Thursday, 12 Mar 2026.

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In this hard-hitting episode of Tree of Liberty, Ben McClintock reveals the deep-seated reality of Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) spanning from the early 90s to the current headlines in Utah County. We dive into the infamous “Glenn Pace Memo”—a document leaked to the Strengthening Church Members Committee that details horrific accounts from 60 victims within the Church. In this video, we cover: The Final Interview: Ben’s personal meeting with Bishop Glenn Pace just 14 days before his passing. The Utah County Battle: The explosive accusations between Sheriff Mike Smith and County Attorney David Levitt regarding a child sex abuse ring. The Scottish Castle Mystery: Why did a lead prosecutor buy a castle in Scotland after the investigation stalled?. The National Network: How these cases link to the “Franklin Cover-Up” and powerful elites across the country. Warning: This program contains extremely sensitive and potentially triggering content regarding ritual abuse. GET INVOLVED & STAY INFORMED


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So this is a compilation of two different videos that I did on satanic ritual abuse that you're going to want to watch all the way through. And it covers satanic ritual abuse in church and government. And I was able to interview right before his death, just a couple of weeks before he died, Bishop Glenn Pace, one of the presiding bishopric of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. And what he did was he actually is one of the few people that did an investigation within the Church on satanic ritual abuse. And I was able to talk to him right before his death. I discussed that right in this video and much more right here on Tree of Liberty Society. Make sure and share this video. I hate the term, but major trigger warning on today's Tree of Liberty program. I am Ben McClintock.

And I've covered this before, but it's actually in the news again about satanic ritual abuse and sexual ritual abuse. And it's actually hitting the news where accusations are going back and forth between the Utah County District Attorney as well as the Utah County Sheriff. So just sparks are flying on the satanic ritual abuse case front on today's Tree of Liberty program. I don't mean to laugh, but it's just so it's you don't know what to do sometimes. It's serious. It's sick. And but that's what we're going to be talking about. Make sure you click on that subscribe button. Click on that bell right now. We're in the middle of our seven day ban on YouTube.

So we'll be putting this up on new alternative platforms in addition to on Facebook. And then it'll be back up on YouTube when when that when that jail YouTube jail time gets done with. So make sure that you also don't miss a program by subscribing to our email list and are also our text list. So that way you get alerts whenever something comes out, you'll know about a new video wherever it's at. No matter what platform it goes out on, you'll know about it because you signed up for those alerts. So with with that, let's get into this very serious subject. Let me give you some some background. I think it'd be really helpful because there have been some some things that folks, you know, when there was a big up to do about this in the news all over the news and the early 90s. And and so there was if there's. Man, there's so much in my head going on about this.

Sorry. In the 90s, there was the what was from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. There was a memo that was leaked by a bishop Glenn Pace, which we'll get into in a second. But also you have other books that I would. They're very serious subject, but I would recommend understanding what's really going on with the elected officials and elites. In all aspects of our society and what they're involved in. And one of those books is called Transformation America. And the other one is called the Franklin cover up. And those books document a very, very clearly that this stuff is going on. It's very real.

When we think about this conspiracy that I talk about, this isn't just all these guys are just socialists and, you know, we just need to kind of fix. Now, these guys are evil. These guys are satanic. And it's not when you talk about satanic, you're not talking about, you know, goth kids. Right. You're this is this is very, very real. And this weekend we'll be covering the satanic unbaptism that they'll be doing at the Sodomite Pride Festival in Salt Lake City as well. So this this Satanism is very real amongst the elite, very real amongst our elected officials. OK, very, very real. And if you want to know the documentation on that names, you will recognize.

Read those books. OK, so let's let's get into. Let's get into. Let's give you some background first with a memo that was released from Glenn Bishop Glenn Pace. And this is the strength from the to the strengthening the church members committee. This is a committee that Pace was on. And some of they cover a lot of different things on strengthening church members. Some people like what they do. Some people don't. But what happened was this and this memo was we don't never came out.

If it was, you know, where it came from, but it was leaked to the the Tanners and the lighthouse ministries. So and then so just as a so as more and more background as well. So I have verified the authenticity of this with Glenn Pace personally. Two weeks before he died, I knocked on his door and wanted to talk to him about the memo and verify its veracity and what he thought about it in the years since. And a couple of things, you know, he was very shaken and unnerved that I found where he lived and that I knew about it. But he said that the memo was was very real. It was true that he didn't include everything, that it's worse than what he wrote. He said that if members of the church knew more about it and knew about the reality of what was going on, they would be very, very shaken about who was involved in it as well. That's what he told me personally. And then a couple of weeks later, he died.

Hope I hope I didn't contribute to that. He seemed pretty healthy, but a couple of weeks later, the news reported that he had died of the flu. So. Very, very interesting. So let's get back to the memo itself and what it covers. So this is a 12 page memo. I'm not going to go over the entire thing. Just going to go over some key points and we'll put we will have a copy of it in the article version of this video. So I encourage you to check that out. So, uh, pursuant to the committee's request, I'm writing this memorandum to pass along what I've learned about ritualistic child abuse.

So what was going on was that they were the church was getting all kinds of reports from all over the West. And so it was just what was crazy was just going on. And so they had to, you know, they put pace in charge of digging into it. Was there anything to it? Um, so you dated received a social service report on Satanism dated May 24th, a report from Brent Ward. So they have all these different reports that I don't think have become public. I haven't read those myself. So I, if you are aware of them, I'd love some information on those reports as well. So he, he limited it to 12 pages because they already had all this data on the other stuff as well. So he met with 36 victims.

The number could be twice or three times as many. If I did not discipline myself to only one meeting per week, I've not wanted my, uh, my involvement with this issue to become a handicap in fulfilling my assigned responsibilities. I also felt, uh, someone needed to pay the price to obtain an intellectual and spiritual conviction as to the seriousness of this problem within the church. Of the 60, 60 victims I have met with 53 are female, seven are male, eight are children. The abuses occurred, the abuse occurred in the following places, Utah, Idaho, California, Mexico, and other places. 53 victims are currently living in the state of Utah. All 60 victims are members of the church. Witnesses in participating in human sacrifice. The majority were abused by relatives, often their parents. All have developed psychological problems and most have been diagnosed as having multiple personality disorder or some other form of disassociative disorder.

Ritualistic child abuse is the most hideous of all child abuse. The basic objective is premeditated to systematically and methodically torture and terrorize children until they are forced to disassociate. The abuse causes them to go crazy and to disassociate. So that creates the multiple personality disorders. And so it does a few things. It helps protect because, um, if, if they can prevent the person from remembering what's going on, then they're the, the, uh, these people are protected in their crimes. Also, the fact that these people are crazy protects them because now you can just dismiss these people as being crazy. And, um, and so that protects them because as a part of myself investigating this and looking into it and finding it, trying to figure out, uh, things along with what's really going on. Um, every single person that I've interviewed that have claimed to be victims of this personally interviewed have all been really, you know, serious mental problems. And it seriously affects their credibility.

You don't, you know, there, there are certain things that they say that you can, you know, you can really, like, you know, it's not true. And there's other things you say, wow, that's, you know, certainly plausible, especially since as, um, uh, Glenn Pace points out that these people that never know each other, don't know each other, um, don't live close to one another. Um, they will repeat, um, the same things, the same individuals will be involved. And so you, you have a lot of that type of stuff that adds credibility to it as well. And so, but because of the crazy, you don't know, it's hard to really, um, grasp which parts are real and which parts are fantasy because of the implanted and abused memories. Okay. So as a part of this, um, it's not, it's, they are also engaged in, um, what part of this ritual abuse. Um, they, it is known that they are, well, as a part of the accusations, I should say, it is, um, involved in, um, cannibalism. And this is a part of when I talk about, I mentioned the other books, the, um, the, uh, with the clinician to the Glenn Pace, man, which talks about this as well. Um, transformation America and the Franklin coverup of both mentioned that as well.

And it, it's actually become almost so mainstream that the FDA had to come out with a warning against receiving young donor blood. So, um, as a part of this, they, you know, to, to reach the mainstream, they weren't engaged in the cannibalism itself, but they were somehow obtaining blood from the young. And injecting it into their bodies. And it became so mainstream that even the government had to come out and give some warnings about that. So, you know, probably, you know, the people involved in that part of the FDA either weren't engaged in this, or they don't like competition. They don't want people that aren't in their, um, circles to be involved in this. And so they put up those types of warnings because I, I have no doubt that there are people at the high levels of the FDA that are engaged in this stuff. Um, additionally. And so, um, now that brings us to June 1st, 2022 Utah County, Utah. And we have two elected officials up for reelection.

You have the County Sheriff, Mike Smith, and you have the County attorney, David Levitt in a battle back and forth with insinuations and accusations. And I wanted to, to, to, to talk about that. It's, you know, it's relevant and what's going on the news and relevant to what's happened in the past. And so you have this, what was, I thought was interesting was yesterday, every single news agency had it as their front page, you know, on their front page, except for KSL and desert news. Make of that what you will. They're all connected together somehow. So I would have expected them all to be unified on this, but for whatever reason, those two agencies did not have it as a front page news story, but all the other ones did. So, uh, Utah County attorney, David Levitt is calling for an investigation of Sheriff Mike Smith handling of allegations involving ritualistic sex abuse. Um, Levitt called for a press conference Wednesday morning. The sheriff's office told the media the night prior that it is investigating a child sex abuse ring that operated in Juab County and Utah, Juab and Sand Peak counties between 1990 and 2010.

So it's pretty interesting that, um, because in the report, um, or in, in, in the alert from the Utah County Sheriff's department didn't mention him at all. Um, but he felt that he wanted to call a press conference, um, the next morning to address it at the press conference. Levin announced that he had and his wife were subjects of a child sex abuse investigation 10 years ago. So right around that timeframe would claim those allegations were totally untrue. I mean, I wouldn't imagine he'd admit it. I learned that my wife and I were part of those allegations allegedly that we were guilty of cannibalizing young children and murdering young children. Okay. That was the allegation against him. He admits that that was the allegation against him.

And so Levitt, um, of course calls the victim or alleged victim, the, uh, a mentally ill person, which whether it's true or not that the abuse happened, if the abuse happened, yes, they are mentally ill, but doesn't mean it didn't happen. Dismissed that he, his wife ever participated in ritual sex abuse or ritual child sex abuse to have my wife's reputation, her professional career and everything about her life's work called into question, brought into question by a few cheap political opportunists offends me to the depth of my being. And then in the, in the following later that day at three o'clock, June 1st, Sheriff Mike Smith comes out and addresses that, that it was discredited. And Mike Smith claims that, no, it wasn't discredited. That actually, that it was just dismissed without prejudice. And so at the time, Mike Smith was not Mike Smith. I'm sorry. Um, David Levitt was the, was the County attorney for Juab County. So he was the County attorney for Juab County. And now he's the County attorney for, for Utah County.

Okay. But at the time Juab County. And, um, and at the time he was one of the ones that were being accused of this and that the charges were then dismissed without prejudice. So ask the question, you know, was this a case of, um, you scratch my back, you know, of, of, of, because we, we understand that the conspiracy of course protects itself. Were these charges dismissed not because there was no evidence, but because Levitt was a powerful person. Now, you know, Mike Smith, I've gotten many reports of him being involved in thuggery. He's been involved in stealing people's property. He did a report on the Cro-Mars and their activities in being stooges for the federal government with that process. And so there's, you know, there's no love and support for me personally for either one of these. This is basically, to me, I see it as the insiders fighting against each other for whatever reason.

So, you know, in this case, I don't know. I don't have any physical evidence on either one of them. But the things that they've both been involved with, I would personally not be surprised. As my personal opinion is that I would not be surprised if these accusations were true. If even that other agencies mentioned were also a part of it and maybe they are a competing one or that they just got ahead of falling out and they're at each other's throats. The idea of this being simply political, you know, that's also possible that there is somebody else in this network that they would like to be in Levitt's position now. And so Levitt's on his way out. He's he's used his influence to get rid of the scriptural teaching of capital punishment and gotten the state to the county government to go along with that position as well. And now they're ready to move on. That's also a possibility.

So but the idea that it that is out there that this is debunked, you know, that's that's not true. It's not been debunked. That there is solid evidence for this behavior happening and being widespread in the report. It talked about people of all positions of people in the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, people of high religious standing in the communities. And and that's how they operate. And so the idea of, you know, him being above reproach, according to the Glenn Pace memo, though, that was the level of individuals that would have been involved in these ritual abuse cases. And so we wanted to give some more background because, of course, KUTV, you know, all of the major news networks in the in the state or around the country are not going to cover that. So to think that it's limited to Utah County, if it's happening in Utah, Utah County, it's it's likely happening wherever you're watching this from. And it's important for us to be on the watch out on the lookout and recognize. I think the key is to help us use this information to recognize the the real evil of the conspiracy that we face, that this isn't simple political disagreements that we face evil, real evil.

And these really evil people, of course, concentrate to power. It's essential that we do not continue to give these evil people in power authority by recognizing their authority. Learn the solutions to what's going on. Go to Tree of Liberty Society dot com. Click on the learn tab. Go through there and learn about the conspiracy that we face and learn about the solutions that we need to be engaged in. So that was from our report from June of 2022. There are some important updates and some interesting things that we've gotten responses to about this as well that we want to cover. So this is the Tree of Liberty Society. And if you want to make sure that you are not missing any of our reports, make sure you subscribe for email and our phone text alert system.

And please become a part of the solution. Support this channel. Support the efforts that we are working on and become a part of the solution by going to Tree of Liberty Society dot com and becoming a member today. We are doing so much behind the scenes. We need your help. So there's been a lot going on with the satanic ritual abuse situation here in Utah and elsewhere. But for those of you that don't know. What SRA is, it stands for satanic ritual abuse. And ritualistic, which is ritualistic abuse, starting with children. And it's used to turn the victim against Christ and to train the victim to be an abuser themselves.

Also to build a network of protection for their crimes. Through the brainwashing and the brain splitting. So there are some serious sources that are really good to be able to use to be able to better understand this issue. It's a very dark and it's a very disturbing thing. But it's something that we need to know about because it's very real. It's going on and we need to be aware of it so that we can protect ourselves, protect others and hopefully bring a stop to it. The original is the Franklin cover up by John W. DeCamp. A wonderful book that details and documents the situation out of Nebraska, which linked to many national names that we're going to get into a little bit later. As well as a follow-up book called The Franklin Scandal by Nick Bryant, who is an investigative reporter who went deep into following up from the original book by Vandekamp and interviewing people and getting additional information.

Another one is Transformation of America. Has some serious flaws in it, but I think overall there's enough good in it to at least read it and take it with a grain of salt. And another great document to be able to learn more, not a great document, but an important document to be able to learn more about the situation is what's been referred to as the Glenn Pace memo. Which was put out in 1990 and was leaked to certain media at the time. And it was released to the Strengthening the Church Members Committee. So for those of you that might not know what the Strengthening the Church Members Committee is, this is the only public information that I'm aware of. If you know of some, please leave it in the comments. But in 2012, the BBC did a documentary called The Mormon Candidate, where it's discussed what he says is the main purpose of the committee, but it had other factors involved as well, as we see, and regarding the satanic ritual abuse. So what are some key points of the memo? I wanted to point out, I also discussed some of these things in the previous video, but just in case you haven't seen that, I'm going to cover some of these key points.

The Glenn Pace memo says, Pursuant to the committee's request, I am writing this memorandum to pass along what I have learned about ritualistic child abuse. Hopefully it will be of some value to you as you continue to monitor the problem. That's very interesting because those other ones, a report from Brent Ward and his memorandum from 1989, were never made public that I'm aware of. So again, if you're aware of either one of those, please pass those along to us. We really appreciate it. So continuing on in the memo, Bishop Pace says, I have met with 60 victims. That number could be twice or three times as many if I did not discipline myself to only one meeting per week.

I have not wanted my involvement with this issue to become a handicap in fulfilling my assigned responsibilities. On the other hand, I felt someone needed to pay the price to obtain an intellectual and spiritual conviction as to the seriousness of this problem within the church. Of the 60 victims with whom I have met, 53 are female and seven are male. Eight are children. The abuse occurred in the following places, Utah, Idaho, California, Mexico, and other places. 53 victims are currently living in the state of Utah. All 60 individuals are members of the church. 45 victims allege witnessing and are participating in human sacrifice. The majority were abused by relatives, often their parents. All have developed psychological problems and most have been diagnosed as having multiple personality disorder or some other form of disassociative disorder.

Ritualistic child abuse is the most hideous of all child abuse. The basic objective is premeditated to systematically and methodically torture and terrorize children until they are forced to disassociate. The torture is not a consequence of the loss of temper, but the execution of well-planned, well-thought-out rituals, often performed by close relatives. The only escape for the children is to disassociate. They will develop a new personality to enable them to endure various forms of abuse. The memories seem to come in layers. For example, the first memory might be of incest. Then they remember robes and candles. Next, they realize that their father or mother, or both, were present when they were being abused. Another layer will be the memory of seeing other people hurt and even killed.

Then they remember having seen babies killed. Another layer is realizing that they participated in the sacrifices. One of the most painful memories may be that they even sacrificed their own baby. With each layer of memory comes another set of problems with which they must deal.

Some have said that the witnesses to this type of treatment cannot be trusted because of the victim's unstable condition and because practically all of them have some kind of disassociative disorder. In fact, the stories are so bizarre as to raise serious credibility questions. The irony of this is that one of the objectives of the occult is to create multiple personalities within the children in order to keep the secrets. So he's recognizing that the victims or the alleged victims in some cases have unstable conditions. And that they universally have a disassociative disorder. And that their claims are extremely bizarre to the extent that they seem uncredible. But he also says that that is one of the objectives of the occult is to create that situation. To remove their credibility so that people do not believe them.

But he says, however, when 60 witnesses testify to the same type of torture and murder, it becomes impossible for me personally not to believe them. The spiritual indoctrination which takes place during the physical abuse is one of the most difficult to overcome. In addition to experiencing stark terror and pain, the children are also instructed in satanic doctrine. Everything is completely reversed. White is black. Black is white. Good is bad. Bad is good. Satan is going to rule during the millennium. Children are put in a situation where they believe they are going to die.

Such as being buried alive or being placed in a plastic bag and immersed in water. Prior to doing so, the abuser tells the child to pray to Jesus to see if he will save her. Imagine a seven-year-old girl having been told she is going to die, praying to Jesus to save her and nothing happens. Then, at the last moment, she is rescued. But the person saving her is a representative of Satan. He uses this experience to convince her that the only person who really cares about her is Satan. She is Satan's child and she might as well become loyal to him.

Just before or shortly after their baptism into the church, the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in this case, children are baptized by blood into the satanic order, which is meant to cancel out their baptism into the church. They will be asked if they understand or have ever felt the Holy Ghost. When they reply that they have, they will be reminded of the horrible things that they have participated in and will be told that they have become a son or daughter of perdition and therefore have no chance of being saved or loved by our Father in Heaven or Jesus.

However, they have told me the positions in the church of members who are perpetrators. Among others, there are young women leaders, young men leaders, bishops, a patriarch, a stake president, temple workers, and members of the tabernacle choir. These accusations are not coming from individuals who think they recognize someone, but from those who have been abused by people they know, in many cases, their own family members. So it wasn't like that they recognized them and said, oh yeah, it was that guy. It was people that were like their fathers or their mothers. Not only do some of the perpetrators represent a cross-section of the Mormon culture, but sometimes the abuse has taken place in our own meeting houses. I don't pretend to know how prevalent the problem is. All I know is that I have met with 60 victims.

Assuming each one comes from a coven of 13, we are talking about the involvement of 800 or so right here on the Wasatch Front. Obviously, I have only seen those coming forth to get help. They are in their 20s and 30s for the most part. I can only assume that it is expanding geometrically, and I'm horrified the numbers represented by the generation who are now children and teenagers. So it's not just in Utah. The Glenn Pace memo says that they happened in Idaho, California, Mexico, and other places. Also, we have what's involved in the Franklin cover-up, which was out in Nebraska, which includes people all over the country from Sacramento to California to Washington, D.C.

So we also have confessions. It's not just people that have said that, oh, I had false memories implanted. But we have people confessing. Here's a report that was put out in the 1990s, which says that there's no significant overall differences between ritual and religion-related cases with respect to evidence of abuse and harm, except that religion-related cases more often involved perpetrator confessions. However, child-religion-related cases were more likely to involve evidence of abuse and harm than cases, than other cases. Also, we have the National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime, published a report in 1992, An Investigator's Guide to Allegations of Ritual Child Abuse.

It says, Why are victims alleging things that do not seem to be true? Some of what the victims in these cases allege is physically impossible. Victim cut up and put back together. Offender took the building apart and then rebuilt it. Some is possible, but improbable. Human sacrifice, cannibalism, vampirism. Some is possible and probable. Child pornography, clever manipulation of victims. And some is corroborated.

Medical evidence of vaginal or anal trauma. And offender confessions. So, but, even with those confessions, we have a lot of government and media cover-up. With, in Nebraska, the newspaper saying that it was a carefully crafted hoax, even though they had confessions. The Deseret News reports that report finds little proof of the abuse. Another, you know, Satanic abuse is all a myth. A brief history of Satanic panic in the 1980s. More recent reports in 2015.

Trying to get the idea that Satan doesn't exist. And, of course, if he does, they're just a bunch of Gothic people doing, you know, weird Gothic things. Not actually hurting people. Because, you know, people that follow Satan would never actually hurt somebody. And, in fact, I got an email regarding my original report. The individual would probably be somebody that you, a lot of you know who he is. But he didn't say that I could use, I didn't ask, but he didn't say that I could use his name. So we'll just use the bulk of, we'll just, this is the entirety of his email to me. It says, Ben, you should not cover this topic without ascertaining which witnesses have had psychological therapies where hypnosis was used to restore forgotten memories.

Hypnosis, where a person releases his mind into the control of the hypnotist, is very liable to be controlled by Satan, which can implant false memories. This has been proven in several cases where children have undergone hypnosis and claimed that a father abused them. But the father proved that he was not, he was not, I'm guessing he meant was not, even in the state at the alleged time. I frankly discount every witness testimony on abuse that comes from hypnotic or psychological suggestion. Abuse does occur, but you can't trust unstable people that have been under psychological pressure or hypnosis to engage in false memory recovery. You mentioned how crazy some of these people are, but you don't dig further into what kind of psychological treatment they have undergone.

So I did mention that, in fact, that false memories can be implanted. And so I don't know if they didn't listen or if they just missed that part, but I did cover that. And I do admit that false memories do happen. But as Glenn Pace said, and as the situation back in Nebraska elucidates, as well as those reports that were put out by the Department of Justice, there are confessions to satanic ritual abuse. There are corroborating evidence that backs up satanic ritual abuse. And it would be impossible to ascertain which of these witnesses did and did not have such psychological therapies. And so what we want to do is to say, yes, some of these people have been accused falsely.

We don't want to just say that all of them, every single individual that has been accused is automatically guilty.

But when, like Glenn Pace said, when you have multiple individuals that are not associated with each other, not mentioning somebody, you know, famous maybe, but mentioning their own family members, and they're all telling the same type of story, you have to give it some credibility as well as the fact that there is evidence that it occurs. So after my initial report, I was then contacted by Brady Zadrozny.

And she reached out and said, my name is Brandy Zadrozny, and I'm a reporter for NBC News. So we've got the corporate media reaching out. I have been reporting on a long-form project regarding ritual abuse, and I've come across your work in investigating the Pace memo. I've heard your stories about meeting Bishop Pace, and it seems like you're the only one, you're one of the very few people to talk with him about his work, documenting satanic ritual abuse. Would you have the time or inclination to talk with me about meeting him?

So, yes, it is true. I'm one of the few people that have actually met with Bishop Pace and talked to him. It was two weeks before he died. And some people have asked the question, would he die of the jab? The answer is no. He died before all that stuff came out. So it was like 2018, 2019. I can't remember the exact year. But I did meet with him and talk to him, and he verified that the memo is accurate and that it's actually worse than what he wrote.

And he seemed very upset and very concerned that I met with him, that I came to his house. And so I wanted to look into Brandy. And so I wanted to show you some of the things that she's quote unquote reporting on. So watch this report, so-called, on NBC News. Phrase from the 1980s, satanic panic. It was sort of shorthand for a slew of false accusations that children were involved in satanic people. False accusations. Well, now the conspiracy is making a comeback online. And this thing thanks to groups like QAnon.

You know that name. NBC News senior reporter Brandy Zdrasny covers extremism and the Internet for us and joins us now. So, Brandy, in your story, you highlight the story of a Republican who's running for reelection in Utah. Help us understand the connection here. Well, this Republican prosecutor was running for reelection in Utah. He was the top prosecutor. He was pretty progressive. Some people labeled him soft on crime. But he was an upstanding Mormon guy, pillar of the community. And what had happened was these old allegations made in the 90s and the early aughts were sort of brought up again by political foes, by someone who he was extraditing from another country, and weaponized against him.

These allegations are wild. They are very unlikely to be true. Unfortunately, what happened was people got them in public records requests and spilled them all over the Internet. He had to come forward into his real life and say, Neither I nor my wife, who is a professor at BYU, are doing these things, cannibalizing children, murdering children, things too awful to even think about. And because of that, in part, he lost the election. You and I have worked on some of these QAnon stories together. We know these things can just go viral for no reason. I heard that you're reporting that Astroworld, the music festival last year, which is where 10 people were killed, is also involved in some of this conspiracy theory? Yeah.

Well, Kate, the thing is, is that now, because of the Internet, ferreting out Satan is now sort of a participatory misinformation quest. And so a thing like Astroworld happens and something terrible happens. And so it's not just enough that something terrible happens. It's that Satan is somehow involved in it. And people are seeing symbols and somehow signs piecing together parts of social media. And it's not just things like Astroworld, right? It can happen in any sort of situation. So we're seeing that sort of Satanic labeling and piecing together clues happening in all sorts of situations and events. It's it's pretty widespread now. Very disturbing.

Brandy, Brandy Zadar, thank you so much. Appreciate it. So it's disturbing. Not not what's going on to them is not disturbing. But the fact that it's being exposed is disturbing. And so didn't you know, didn't mean to give him all that coverage. But I wanted to show the whole thing because it's just full of all kinds of brainwashing techniques, frankly, to get you to dismiss. With all of the satanic panic, unlikely accusations, et cetera, et cetera, to get people to dismiss as a whole. Brandy Zadarazny is a, quote, reporter with NBC News. What does she do exactly?

Well, by her description, her job is seeking out personally identifying information about anonymous Trump supporters online, some of them, and revealing their true identities. Zadarazny has acknowledged, quote, this. I use social media sleuthing to learn about a subject's real life, their family, friends, jobs, personal and political associations. So what does that mean exactly? What kind of information? Well, that information could include phone records, property records, even their Amazon wish lists. And that's the problem. And that's really why, because I believe with the evidence of you look at her own Twitter thread on this topic. She did not, I don't believe, personally, that she had any desire to have an honest discussion, that she would basically use it as a way to be able to further poo-poo it and try to make people not believe it anymore. Because that is what she is doing, is trying to dismiss it, even though it is documented.

It's documented. To dismiss it as a whole is ridiculous. So, again, I want to go back and share some of the original news reports about it, and then follow up with some things that have happened more currently. So check, check out, check this out. The sheriff's office is using... Let me... Let me... That the sheriff's office is using its position for political gain. Claims outlined in a 151-page victim statement from a 2012 case against a therapist named Utah County Attorney David Levitt and several others. Alleging that we were guilty of cannibalizing young children and murdering young children.

Well, there are a number of reasons why the Utah County Attorney's Office might have a conflict of interest. Not just because Levitt named himself as a suspect earlier this year. He's also given multiple statements about his relationship with Hamblin and some of the alleged victims. As you're about to see, the nature of those statements have changed over the past two years. Would you mind riding in the back of a police car? Men and women allege David Hamblin used positions of power as a father, a therapist, a neighbor, and as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to ritualistically abuse children. He was arrested Wednesday morning, but investigators say he probably won't be the only one. I have nothing to hide. Until Hamblin's arrest, Fox 13 News chose not to identify any of the subjects of the investigation. But that did not stop Utah County Attorney David Levitt from outing himself as a suspect in June and describing his relationship with Hamblin.

I prosecuted the therapist in Juve County for poaching a deer. He poached a deer to use for ritualistic purposes. This therapist was my elders quorum president in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He was my neighbor. He was my neighbor. He was my neighbor. He was my neighbor. He was my neighbor. I had a family connection. During that same press conference, Levitt described his accuser as tragically mentally ill.

She's one of the same women who accused Hamblin and others. Shame on you for doing that. It's uncalled for. He said tragically mentally ill woman five times. To attack their mental health status as a way to discredit them. And it was clear that that's what he was doing. And that's just not okay. There is no organized ring of abuse. It was debunked. But watch and listen.

More than two years before that press conference, Levitt sat down for a different interview and was asked if he thought ritualistic sex abuse was real. He went on to describe Hamblin and his own accuser, calling her a victim. Do I think that occurs? Yeah, I think it occurs. I know some victims of it. I was not in a position to prosecute it. Who was into Native American stuff? He'd kill deer and get deer hearts and drink their blood and drink the deer's blood. At the time, Levitt was under investigation by Homeland Security. How do you train a dog to roll over when it's time to roll over?

You know, you do it by giving a reward and repetition. If a man wants to program some little girl to give immoral sex any time he wants to, you start young and give rewards. I mean, it's... So he contradicts himself. He says that there is no ring of ritualistic, satanic ritualist abuse. And he calls her crazy. But then in another one, he says, oh, yes, it's real. Yes, it exists. And yes, she's a victim. And then, of course, in both interviews, tries to dismiss the entire connection to Hamblin of, oh, it was just about Indian rituals.

But the same lady... Okay, let me go back. We'll go here.

There's hundreds of victims have come forward since May of 2022. But only one person has been charged. The same individuals that accused Jacob Hamblin have accused David Levitt.

That is very interesting that only one of them has been charged. But just, you know, about a week or so ago, David Levitt announces on his Facebook page that he's bought a castle in Scotland. So he gets... He doesn't get charged. All of the things kind of go away. And we have a little scapegoat in Hamblin. And David Levitt gets to go buy a castle in Scotland. Okay, so the bottom line is what we see here is the government and media are working together to cover up the most evil of crimes and the most evil of conspiracies. That is just an undeniable fact. Are we going to continue to give them legitimacy by voting, listening, and obeying them?

That is what it comes down to. That's why it's important to understand this. Because why are we giving these people legitimacy when they are a part of this horrible, horrible behavior? So I want to bring it back, right? Because this is not just in one place. Franklin cover-up shows that this goes... This is a network that goes across the entire country. There's a clip from the documentary on satanic ritual abuse called The Conspiracy of Silence. Despite the investigation, Larry King remained free to feed his pedophilic parties with child victims. But in 1988, a routine review brought the Boys Town cases to the attention of Nebraska's state foster care review board.

And the information presented to the foster care review board, either via the telephone reports, the personal reports, or the reports we reviewed, Larry King's name was consistently present as someone that the youth were making allegations against. I mean, I turned that information over to authorities, and nothing happened. I would say we handed over at least a foot high amount of material. Generally speaking, the allegations were ignored. Omaha police now accept that Larry King may have been abusing children. Good morning, Roberta. Good morning, Steve. But its most senior detective claims he never received any evidence. It is certainly possible that Mr. King was involved in illegal acts with children.

If there was sufficient evidence of those types of allegations, he would have been prosecuted by the county attorney's office. For me, it was very clear that the case was not investigated and not pursued because of the alleged perpetrators.

Those perpetrators named by the children formed a ring of rich and powerful pedophiles in Omaha. Men from industry, politics, the media, even the police.

Working together. And this is a network. So not only was it just there in Omaha, but it was nationwide. The powerful people that were implicated were people like Warren Buffett, John Kerry, George W. Bush, and people in the Reagan-Bush cabinet.

And so we see this as being, we see what's going on. We wonder, people always want to say, oh, you know, Biden is just stupid. Or someone, the thing against Bush was he was just stupid. They want us to just make it as if they're stupid. They don't know what they're doing. Because then we just say, okay, we can just vote harder next time and not get somebody stupid in there. No, this is a network, a bipartisan network of Satanists that are working together to destroy our liberties. And so we cannot continue to treat them legitimately because they are not. I will not let a Satanist tell me how to raise my children, that I shouldn't put them in front of cross-dressing trannies, reading story hours. That I will not force them to, I will not let them put poisons inside of me.

I will not let them muzzle me. It's insanity to think that we will let these people govern over us when this is what they are engaged in. So, again, make sure you do not miss another report from the Tree of Liberty Society by subscribing to our email list and our text message list. And support our efforts. Become part of it. Join with us. Become part of the solution. Take part of the benefits of membership. We have so many of these documents as well on the membership portal as a benefit, as a thank you for supporting our efforts. So, please go to treeoflibertysociety.com and become a member today.

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