Member Training – Why The Black Pill Isn’t The Answer

Member training from March 24th, 2025. In this meeting, Ben covers the conspiracies effort to get people that wake up, to give up. 

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TRANSCRIPT

Let us pray, O Father in Heaven, we ask you for your blessing on this meeting tonight. We ask for your spirit to move among us and to direct our speaker tonight, Ben. May we increase our ability to be your tool, to be your instrument, to great righteousness and Liberty to the land They will we learn tonight? We have the courage to do just that Great this prayer in your holy name, Jesus. Amen. Amen.

Thank you mark Carmen are you ready for the minutes? Here we go So tonight we’re gonna talk about why the black pill isn’t the answer and I’m gonna define what the black pill is as if you’ve never heard of the Black Pills, so don’t worry about that. But it’s a movement that is kind of gaining steam amongst people that are, would traditionally be in the Liberty Movement. And I just wanna remind everybody that, so that as we’re going through this, we wanna understand that the purpose of our training every week is to build understanding of the principles that will help build, that have built free nations to expose the Satanic conspiracy and to build an effective resistance to that conspiracy. So keep these things in mind as we go through. How does this help us understand correct principles and expose evil and then make sure that we are a part of an effective resistance to that conspiracy?

So back in the, I think it was the ’60s, the book Masters of Deceit by the former head of the FBI, J. Edgar Hoover, said something very important that is really very true and helped us to see where it is that we’re at. What’s the score? He said the individual’s handicap by coming face -to -face with a conspiracy so monstrous they cannot believe it exists. So he’s describing this conspiracy but there’s a problem. We can’t Accept the fact that it exists and that’s that’s a handicap to us. We though This conspiracy is so big so monstrous. We have a problem. We can’t accept that. That’s the case The American mind is simply has not come to the realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst And that’s a big problem. That’s what we see with those that either have accepted the conspiracy and but don’t recognize the extent of it or those that deny it because of this or those that refuse to accept the the solutions that are the only ones that will work because this is the the situation that we’re in and so it’s important that we overcome that handicap we have to be willing to accept this this fact is a reality.

And so a part of that waking up, right? People use that term that they’ve awakened to their awful situation. They’re awake to the situation that’s going on. And of course, and so there’s a popular movie that talks about being red -pilled as a part of the waking up process. And so I just wanna give, so to give us the context of what we’re to with Blackpill, I want to play this clip from the Matrix that talks about the blue and the red pill.

Okay, so red pill versus blue pill, blue pill means like you just, you reject everything that you’ve learned and you reject the fact that we face a conspiracy but if you’re red -pilled that’s you know there’s a red -pill expo it’s referring to the idea of you’ve your eyes have been open to what’s going on and you recognize that the reality that we’ve been sold is a farce and and there is something else going on and so as a part of that some people when they wake up they come to a point where they want to give up they wake up and wake up and give up all at once.

Here’s another clip from the movie that illustrates this point.

and delicious, after nine years, you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss. So they, you know, he woke up to what was really going on, but he said it, he liked it better when he didn’t know. and so he was doing whatever he could to be able to go back and at least pretend like he didn’t know what the truth was about what was really going on, that he didn’t have to be involved in this resistance and this rebellion against this tyrannical conspiracy.

And so that’s what we refer to as people that are black -pilled. They wake up and they give up all at the same time, which basically has the same effect as the blue pill of just refusing to to wake up So the the black pill is believing that fighting the conspiracy is futile and that you’re better off just living your life Not paying attention or caring about such things They say there’s nothing we can do about it. And so why worry about it? And so that’s that’s what the the conclusion that they’ve come to by waking up to their awful situation is that it’s too big. It’s too powerful. There’s nothing that can be done. So don’t even worry about it. But that is an immoral position. And there are some people, this is one of the scriptures that have been brought up to me of that mindset. They say, “Oh, it’s scriptural there.” They say, “When I was a child, I spoke it like a child. I thought like a child. I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put away childish things. And so the thought process is that it’s childish to think that anything can be done, anything should be done, and that, you know, now that we’re mature and that, you know, we’re the adult in the room, we ignore the idea that there’s something to be done to resist this conspiracy. And so they, you have some people that fall into the camp of this of, hey, that’s what they’re doing. Let’s I’m going to join them. I, you know, I want to get as much benefit out of this thing as I can. And then you have other people that are like, I’m just going to go back, I don’t care. I’m just gonna live my life. I’m going to watch the sports balls. And I’m going to just ignore what’s going on and not worry about it. Because it’s just not worth it.

And so Both of these are immoral, right? If you know something and you don’t act on it, you are without virtue. And because you are without virtue, you can’t have freedom. A virtue, a person with virtue, a moral person, when they know something evil is happening, has a moral obligation to do something about it at whatever level they can. Some people, that’s a warning others, some people, that’s taking They’re a wide variety on the spectrum, but a moral person is going to do everything that they can do Once they know about it. And so if you take that black pill, that means you’re an immoral person You’re saying I’m not going to do something about it. I know my neighbor’s house is on fire But there’s nothing I can do about it. So I’m just gonna sit here and mind my own business And that is an immoral position to take and it’s important that the founding fathers they dealt with this a lot You know with what they were doing. Can you imagine this ragtag group of people?

with hardly any money hardly any resources and They’re fighting the biggest government on the earth with all the money with all the weapons with all of the army and They think they’re gonna have an impact. But John Adams said that patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish. And so if we just look at the situation, and we, you know, we think about it in this way of, hey, look at the odds on both sides, I’m just going to give up. But he’s saying, no, no, no, patience and perseverance, staying with it, saying, I’m a moral person, I’m going to stick with that I’m going to be patient and realize that, you know, I’ve got to do something about it. Whatever result is, I’ve got to do something about it. There is actually something magical, I would say divine, something from God that backs that up, that makes these difficulties, these impossible odds disappear. And so that we can actually do something that on paper would be literally impossible.

And then Thomas Jefferson said, when you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on. So, you know, you, even though you’ve done, you feel like you’ve done everything you can, you don’t give up, you don’t just let go. You don’t, which means giving up, turning over the other side. No, you just, you just hang on there until you’re given the strength and something happens something somebody comes along helps you, but you just cannot give up and then we have this correspondence between Samuel Adams and James Warren James Warren writes to Sam Adams and says I shall not fail to exert myself to have as many towns as Possible meet but fear the bigger part of them will not They are dead and the dead can’t be raised without a miracle

nd so And so he’s really worried about, you know, he’s like, I’m going to do my job, but I don’t believe it’s going to have a lot of effect. And so he’s like, you know, what they were doing, they were working on was getting everybody together to be able to have these committees of correspondence and to be able to discuss what is going on and then to discuss what they’re going to do about it. And so that’s that’s what is that’s what he was charged with but he’s like hey, these guys are dead and you know I don’t know what I’m gonna you know, what what can I do about it? Is a very important thing that That he was dealing with there

and so Sam Adams replies back to him and says I am very sorry to find anything in your That this discovers the least approach towards despair Now desperate on them despair of nothing that is a motto for you and for me All are not dead and where there is a spark of patriotic fire We will look we will rekindle it and so he was like, you know, you can’t have that attitude. You I don’t want you even entertaining the idea that what we’re going to do isn’t going to work we cannot despair the people aren’t dead we are going to do everything that we can knowing that the people that God has repaired are not dead that they are awake and that they will answer the call are we going to be there for them when that call is given to be able to give them a place to go to give them something to do and so that’s an attitude we all need to have we can’t be pessimistic saying i’ll do my job but it’s not going to have any effect that’s not going to that’s not going to help you’re not going to be as engaged in the solution as you would be you’ve got you know even if you don’t like the way it’s being done you don’t like the people engaging it maybe or you don’t like the way that they’re doing what they’re doing

It’s you know that the lead follower get out of the way and If you’re not going to to lead at least look at the people that are and Your full heart do the right thing and engage in the solution and Then something better will come up or you can engage your superior abilities to help the cause along But you complaining about something not being done exactly the right way is not going to help.

And so we can’t have that despair. We’ve got to be the ones on the front lines saying, “No, this is the right thing to do, and we are going to do it, and we are going to make it better than it is right now.” Because of everything that, you know, we’re going to come up with new ideas, and we are going to come up with better ideas. And we’re going to engage in the things that are being done right now to make sure they’re done in the best way that they can be done. And so no so not giving up though at the same time that doesn’t mean just keep doing the same dumb thing that doesn’t work The same dumb thing that’s designed to help the conspiracy, right? This isn’t a this isn’t a hey just keep on doing the thing that’s designed to give the conspiracy more power So I wanted to give an example of that. We talked about just voting harder, right? And so here’s an example of North Korea.

Hey, look at that, man. They had voter ID. There’s no voter fraud there. Most secure elections in the world, probably, right? Everybody’s got to have their ID shown, and the ballot, you know, the box, it’s a secret ballot. Nobody knows how you voted. I mean, is voting harder going to, you know, we can’t give up by not voting, we could have our vote. No, that’s not what we’re talking about, right?

We don’t engage in things that don’t work. We’re just making sure that we don’t give up on working on a solution that is proven to have worked in the past, and then improving the effectiveness of engaging in that solution. And so, you know, we see here, if somebody were saying, you know, I’m not going to vote in that election, you can say, oh, somebody, of course, is going to say, well, you know, you’re just giving up. Well, no, that’s, it’s ridiculous. No matter how hard you voted in that election, it’s not going to, that’s literally not going to change anything. And so what we have here, it’s a little more sophisticated in the United States, but it’s the same exact thing. What we have here in the United States is a case of three card Monty and played that for you.

The game is called three card Monty. Usually bet money and if you can spot the ace of the queen to win. This is a money card. This is all you have to do is find this and you get whatever you got here double. You understand? So all you have to do is find this but it’s not going to be with two cards. I’m going to use three cards. So I got the the Joker, right? And I’m gonna pull out another Joker. Can you all see that?

You can all see that, right? There’s one Joker, there’s two Jokers, and here’s the money card, the one that we’re playing with, right? Okay, so I do like this, right? So now you know what to follow, okay? So I do this, where’s the queen? – Here. – I don’t know, you’re just the egg. (laughing) Hold on, hold on, let’s do it again. Hold your hand up watch watch watch here. Let’s do it again because here’s the idea ready See I do like this, right? Okay, and now you know this time, you know exactly where’s the queen now I don’t see you just lost So that’s exactly what’s the way it’s all in the open, you know The if you’re gonna say this is fraud, you know, you’re just a paranoid conspiracy theorist because it’s it’s all right there Everybody’s watching what’s going on and oh look at that you you lost every time.

Isn’t that crazy? And so It’s the illusion of not only just losing of two choices There’s an illusion here of three choices. You have a third party to choose from But the good one, you know, no matter what happens the conspiracy wins because it’s rigged and so playing three card Monty in this situation is the exact same thing even though you have the illusion of choice as voting in North Korea It’s the same exact thing It’s more, you know, it’s it’s more Diabolical because you have the illusion of choice But it’s the same exact outcome where the house wins every single time and so are you being a quitter? By not playing three card Monty are you being a quitter by not voting in North Korea?

No, you’re just saying I’m not going to play a rigged game. Right? Are people just going to scream at you need to tweet harder, you just need to vote harder, you just need to do these things harder. No, that’s not going to change the situation. That’s not a solution to the problem. And if we don’t understand the problem, which is why it’s so important that we work to distribute the copies of our book invasion is then so that people understand what it is that we’re facing.

Otherwise, this is what you’re going to get from people because they don’t understand what we’re facing. And so, right, these people were not quitters. You know, when Moses took Israel and said, you know, we’re not going to write to Pharaoh a sternly written letter, we’re not going to vote harder to get a better Pharaoh elected to be in charge of Egypt. He said, no, we’re leaving. We’re not a part of this. Right?

The same thing with the pilgrims, for the pilgrims, they quitters. Would anybody, you know, question their integrity because they left the old world to come to the new? No, absolutely not. They understood the situation that they Iran and they said I’m going to take charge of it. They weren’t giving up and saying I’m going to take part of the system or just Ignore it. They said I’m going to do something with my family that will improve the situation Same thing the founding fathers, right?

They didn’t give up by not voting harder for a new king They didn’t give up because they didn’t write more sternly written letters to the parliament That they didn’t give up. They worked on a solution that would actually work. They moved to a solution that would work. And the Mormon pioneers, they did not, they weren’t quitters because they fled the United States. They were following the example of those that came before. They simply stopped playing a rigged game and followed God’s pattern that he has set forward throughout time of how you become a free people.

And so in some cases that’s fighting and in some cases that’s leaving and in some cases, it’s a mixture of both And so we need to understand that you know, we did this in our live thing a couple of weeks ago where we talked about one of the the Sayings or what you know one of the the principles that the Hellfire Club taught of whatever is is right, right? The idea of, you know, whatever’s going on in the world, it’s what’s supposed to be and how in the Christian world that is translated into God’s in charge.

That means, you know, I’ve got nothing, you know, God’s in charge. How am I going to affect anything? Because God’s in charge. I mean, I can’t do anything for good or for evil, because God’s in charge. And that’s a lie that Satan tells us to get us to do nothing. Of course, this is God’s world. But to say that God’s in charge is an excuse to do nothing is to remove that thing that God gave us agency to do right so that we could be held accountable for our sins or for our good actions. Because God uses us.

God doesn’t just do, you know, he doesn’t just come down here and, and personally go and get, you know, get rid of leaders, you know, he didn’t come down here and get rid of King George. He didn’t come down here and get rid of enemies of Israel personally. He sent out individuals to go do the job because we’re responsible for the world that we create. We go to Judges chapter 3 and here’s an example of the Israelites They did what was evil in the sight of the Lord forgetting the Lord their God and serving the Baals and the Asherahs Okay, so they turned against God therefore the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel and he sold them into the hand of King Kushin Rishatim of Arim Naharim, and the Israelites served Kushin Rishatim eight years, so there’s a consequence. God doesn’t want us to be enslaved, but there’s a consequence. When we reject him and we refuse to have him as our leader, he puts us into captivity.

That is the natural result of our rejection of him as our ruler. But And we have the Israelites cried out to the Lord. They repented. They turned away from their wicked ways and they asked God to deliver them. And so the Lord raised up a deliverer, or the Israelites, who delivered them. Both Anisle, son of Kenaz, Caleb’s younger brother. The spirit of the Lord came upon him and he judged Israel. He went out to war and the Lord gave King Kushan, Rishathing of Aram into his land and his hand prevailed over Kushan Rishatheem.

So we see that the Lord, right? We see with like Moses. Yes, the Lord did things, right? He fills the gap, but Moses still was commanded to go to Pharaoh and say let my people go. Pharaoh, I mean, Moses still needed to put his staff in the water. God did the rest God expects us to do something and he fills in the gap for what we can’t do But if Moses did not do that God had nothing to bless And so if we think we can just sit back and watch the you know, God’s gonna take care of this for us We expect what never was and whatever will be We have to be anxiously engaged because if this man that the had raised up didn’t do that, Israel wouldn’t have been able to be delivered at this point.

Then we go to Judges chapter 6. “The angel the Lord appeared to Gideon and said to him, ‘The Lord is with you, you mighty warrior.’ Gideon answered him, ‘But sir, if the Lord is with us, why then has this happened to us?’ And where are all his wonderful deeds that our ancestors recounted to us, saying, ‘Did not the Lord bring us up from Egypt but now the Lord has cast us off and given us into the land the hand of Midian so he’s like what about all in the past all these miracles that were told about but now we are enslaved because of our actions then the Lord turned to him and said go in this might of yours and deliver Israel from the hand of Midian I hereby commission you So did the Lord, just with his, you know, like ancient Greek mythology, send Zeus, you know, just zap the Midianites and save the people of Israel? No, he used a man to do his will.

He responded, “But sir, how can I deliver Israel? My clan is the weakest in Manasseh, and I am the least in my family. The Lord said to him I will be with you and you shall strike down the Midianites every one of them So right Gideon’s like dude, you know, I’ll do what you say But you know, hey, how can I do this because I’m the weakest? We’re the weakest There’s other more powerful stronger tribes of Israel that you can do this It’ll do a much better job for you and God’s like you just need to do it and I’ll fill the the gap for you, right? I will be with you. I will make sure that you’re powerful enough to do the job. But you’ve got to go do the job.

And we go to Judges chapter four. We learned the story about J .L. So Israel is such an apostate point where they have a woman rule over them. And that woman prophet, prophetess, condemns them and says hey you know the only reason that you’ve got a woman in charge is because you guys are wicked but so he says the we read in the judges says the Israelites again did what was evil in the side of the Lord after he who died so the Lord sold them into the hand of King Jabin of Canaan the commander of his army was Cesare so Canaan had again enslaved real to get him enslaved by a foreign power, and the leader of this foreign power or the commander of his army was Cesare. Now, Cesare had fled away on foot to the tent of Yael, wife of Heber the Kenite, for there was peace between King Jabin of Hazor and the clan of Heber the Kenite.

Yael came out to meet Cesare and said to him, “Turn aside, my lord, turn side to me have no fear so he turned aside to her into the tent and she covered him with a rug and so he’s she’s like hey you know come in here i’ll take care of you it’s all good then he said to her please give me a little water to drink i am thirsty so she opened a skin of milk and gave him a drink and covered him she’s rolling them and taking care of them he said to her “Stand at the entrance of the tent, and if anybody comes and asks you, as anyone here, say no.” So, “Hey, Yael, go stand guard at the door, and don’t tell him anybody’s here. Make sure that the tent’s empty.”

But Yael, wife of Heber, took a tent peg and took a hammer in her hand. He went softly to him and drove the peg into his temple until it went down into the ground he was lying fast asleep from weariness and he died and so by the actions of this woman one of the the main leaders of the opposing army was killed and then the people of Canaan fled away and the people of Israel were once again free and then we look up to To the future, speaking of the last days, the Prophet Micah said, And among the nations the remnant of Jacob, surrounded by many peoples shall be like a lion among the animals of the forest, like a young lion among the flocks of sheep, which when it goes through, treads down and tears in pieces, with none to deliver.

Your hand shall be lifted up over your adversaries and all your enemies shall be cut off. And in anger and wrath I will execute vengeance on the nations that did not obey.” So he’s talking about in the last days, you know, leading up to the second coming of the Lord, the people of God, the remnant of God, those that are following the Lord, they will be instruments in the hand of God to go amongst those that are turned, that are turned away from the Lord as a lion amongst flocks of sheep. And that through them, God will execute vengeance. We are the instruments of God.

We are His instruments to be able to have Him execute vengeance on those that did not obey Him. And so that is not to be left to the past saying, “Oh, that’s no longer a thing.” The prophets that have seen the future day said that this is a thing again and that we will be tools and instruments in the hand of God to exact his will on the world. We cannot be slothful servants to God and expect his blessings.

And so it’s important for us to understand that we face the horrific and a powerful conspiracy, and that we must not give up. We cannot allow the odds or the horrific nature of the conspiracy to allow us to wake up and give up at once because we have to be engaged, but not just engaged in anything, but engaged in actions that work. Stay away from those things that are designed to get us to spin our wheels, like a train getting, you know, or like a hamster, right, just going nowhere.

And understanding that we have a powerful mission to perform. There are things that will happen as, you know, either to ourselves as we’ve talked about in the past, quoting the, um, the Alpha Vendita the carbonari and their document of talking about how you know when the a soldier dies the battle continues They they recognize that this is something that will it might not happen in their lifetime. This might not happen in your lifetime But we must you must lay the groundwork, you know, if it’s not going to be you in your lifetime You must be positively engaged in the groundwork that will allow and set the foundation for For your children or the children of others around you to be engaged in this battle to be victorious and be a part of that powerful force And implementing the powerful mission in the future that if we are blackbilled thinking we give up and wake up and give up all at the same time That we won’t be able to be a part of and that we will receive the consequences for being an immoral I’m not engaging in something in a battle that we know exists, thinking that there’s nothing to be done. And so it’s my prayer that we will do what we can. And right now the action that I’m asking all of us to take right now is to get out just three copies of the book invasion as a part of that, beginning that foundations that are needed for us to be a part of that powerful mission for the future to be able to restore to continue to maintain freedom and restore lost liberty.

And so with that, let’s go ahead and allow, okay, everybody can raise their hand and engage in Discussion or ask questions or make comments just going through the comments right now Mark go ahead. I’m just gonna unmute yourself. You’re still muted mark

Yeah, can you hear me now? I can hear you. Yeah, good. I’m glad what you said here towards the end about further defining not giving up, you know, opposing the conspiracy, opposing evil, and doing an adequate job and throwing ourselves completely into it, because some of us are guilty of not really committing to that. And I wanted to mention But you talked about the beginning referring to it’s not virtuous not to oppose this kind of evil and It’s lacking a value Valor, but it’s really I think even beyond that. It’s really uncivilized also civilized societies Not only did they have technological advances and social advancements and cultural advancements and but they also had political stands for justice to some extent. If you don’t stand for justice in your political system, you really are uncivilized. And you could even say a savage, because that’s what you see in the sad cultures of the savages. They did not stand for right to life– freedoms, property rights, and so forth. And my final point here is we talked at the end of last week about a family member.

I think Brittany’s here. We talked about their family and how hard it is to get him to even discuss these kinds of important principles and what’s happening. And really, we’re talking about somebody– I don’t know if it was your mother. I forgot who it was. I think it was. You’re talking about somebody that’s not embracing civilization. And we need, sometimes that’s what’s needed to help motivate people. Not opposing enslavement of mankind or enslavement of Americans is really an uncivilized, arguably even a savage position. And I think we need to help people come to that terms, and Then they can decide do you want to join civilization or you want to be among the savages? Does that make sense to anyone? I agree and and a part of that as I alluded to it was you know even people say oh yeah that’s that’s not money to do but I’m gonna wait until it’s done exactly the way I think it should be and that’s but it’s exactly the same result. Yeah your patience to anti -civilization by waiting. Right. Absolutely.

Anybody else? Hopefully it was clear. Yeah, go ahead, Mark. Yeah. Going back to a quote from J. Grahoer about it’s two, conspiracy is two monsters that people, it’s hard for people to even exist. And he actually talked about that multiple times. But one of the problems I see today is there is a lot of people that believe that there is a conspiracy out there, but they have no idea or they don’t want to have an idea of its power and strength. I see this on the hate dolly show, they’ll constantly talk about issues as though there is no conspiracy and positions and why are we in this situation and no association among people doing exactly the same thing moving us towards tyranny and one world communist government and so forth.

And they just wanted to avoid looking at and realizing the power and size of this evil enemy of ours. And I think that’s a great deal of the problems, not just the knowledge of conspiracy, but when you don’t acknowledge anything close to its power and size, it’s basically about the same as not acknowledging it at all. There’s an old quote, “The difference in degrees, a difference in kind.” It’s not really true literally, but if you don’t understand the degree of its power and force and influence, it’s just about the same as not understanding it in kind. Well, I think that’s a part of the immorality as well is that they don’t want to recognize how monstrous this conspiracy is because if they do then they have to engage in a solution that actually will get them out of their you know put them at risk where right now they think oh if I just vote harder you know if I just you know let my voice be known on the social medias then I’ve done my duty.

People don’t want to see themselves as a bad person So they’re trying to rationalize away or deny to the point that they don’t have to acknowledge that they’re a bad person because What we’re facing here, and you don’t find it you’re an uncivilized bad person and so they try to just rationalize it away Yeah, okay Brittany

yes, I was just gonna say I kind of agreed with everything mark was saying and yes I was talking about my mom, but it’s also my sister -in -law who’s a little cuckoo But Yeah, I was just gonna just mention that I liked all the stories today like all the things from the scripture I think we just need to kind of be reminded of that sometimes that The stories are there to help us like they’re there to give us strength to know that like people have done this before us and that we can we can do it too like and we shouldn’t be afraid of what’s to come I mean yes I am afraid of the FBI guy in my ward but that’s just you know you know whatever but beyond that you know like I just don’t want to get thrown in jail while my kids still is in the house when she’s gone I mean You don’t know, I might end up in jail. I don’t know.

So, but at the end of the day, I do want to stand up for what’s right and what is for liberty and for freedom. And I think that’s what we’re all doing. And that’s why we’re here. That’s why we’re participating. That’s why we’re part of a group is so that we can all feel like we’re doing it together.

So. Yeah, thank you. You know, it’s always, it’s very, it’s new. It’s like getting into, you know, if you’ve ever visit the beach right and you kind of get your the ocean’s cold and you’re like okay I’ve got to get acclimated and get my feet wet and get them used to it and go a little bit deeper until you feel comfortable enough to to go even deeper and so it’s you know it’s it’s not like all or nothing I would I would hope that people would recognize I’m not saying that I’m not saying hey go and you know go stab a stake through your governor’s you know skull tonight

okay well I’m not so I’m not saying don’t do that. I’m saying that you don’t have to do that You know as it’s either that or nothing, right? It’s we get our feet wet And that’s why they’re like encouraging you to get the book out That is a great way to get your feet wet and so Yeah, I agree with you 100 % ready mark. Go ahead Yeah, we you have us read a whole book about doing just that killing the Murder yeah, The Yeah, but back to Brittany So if the children if they do something immoral you’re gonna point it out to them that they steal from their neighbor or Are beat up some You’re gonna so it’s no different in fact in them argument

You don’t argue it’s even more important with adults whether they’re family whether they’re older than us whether their sisters sisters, brothers. Nothing God never said would hold moral truth just because of the nature of the relationship. So we need to be saying this to our families too, but saying it in a way that we can try to get them to acknowledge that and take the right action. But the last thing I wanted to mention is that quote from Santa Adams, that is so valuable.

What was it? Despair of nothing. On Kate Holly’s show, she has days where well, I know we were feelings are the issue. I know it’s a sad subject and and Friday We’re not gonna we’re gonna have a pleasant good feelings times good feelings for the sake of feelings. It’s not a wall position You know the soldier out in the battle combat. He’s not gonna say well I need to have good feelings. I’m gonna walk off the field. You don’t allow feelings to interfere with what’s right and wrong. We have to, and I think you’ve kind of said that in different ways, Ben, I think we have to buck up and act like adults and not allow our feelings to lead us, but allow God and Godly principles and Godly law to lead us. I’m uncompromised.

Yeah, thank you. Okay, well Let’s uh, let’s go ahead. I guess my voice did last long. It’s still kind of weak, but I was able to make it through So thank you all for joining us tonight. We’ll go ahead and have a closing prayer and then I’ve opened forum for a little bit and After father in heaven, we are grateful for this opportunity that we have had to meet and To learn more of what it takes to stand true and fast, to fight for our liberties, and to be able to see how it’s been done in the past by those who were brave and courageous enough to do so, to give us a pattern to follow. We ask that you please help us to have that same courage, that we may be able to give our children and our grandchildren a better place to live. We love thee so very much and are grateful for the many blessings that thou bestows upon us. We pray for these things in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

Thank you, Becky.