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Member Training – The Founding Fathers & The Conspiracy

Posted by Ben McClintock, Tuesday, 05 Aug 2025. Training held Monday, 04 Aug 2025.

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Member training from August 4th, 2025.


Tonight I walked through a powerful training focused on the historical roots and enduring relevance of the conspiracy against liberty and religion, as documented by America’s Founders. We examined letters and writings from figures like Abigail Adams, George Washington, John Jay, and others, who openly warned about the Illuminati, Jacobins, and their coordinated efforts to undermine virtue, faith, and constitutional governance. I highlighted how these leaders didn’t just theorize—they acted: sharing books, writing letters, and using their influence to awaken others. We discussed how their courage and clarity should inspire us today to recognize the same patterns, educate our communities, and resist modern iterations of this conspiracy. The goal is not just awareness, but principled action rooted in truth, scripture, and historical precedent.


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TRANSCRIPT


Our Father who art in heaven, we are grateful for this opportunity to come together tonight and ask for thy spirit to guide and direct Ben and all those who participate in the instructions and receiving the instructions that is given. We are desirous that our minds would be enlightened and that we may be able to receive the instruction to help us grow in our capacities and understanding. Please protect and watch over Ben and his family as well as each one in this organization and guide and direct those who would be a help and assistance in this organization to become a part of it. We ask for thy spirit and protection to be over us each one and ask in the name of thy son, Jesus Christ. Amen.

So tonight we're going to talk about what we don't want to hear, but we must hear it. These are important things that we want to cover that people don't want to talk about. But of course, as always, everything we do is to build understanding and adherence to principles that have built free nations and societies, expose the satanic conspiracy, and build an effective resistance to that conspiracy. So everything in tonight's training will be to that end. So going over the member manual, the last section in the member manual, and I'm going to kind of merge. together tonight's entire training with this section so of comments and suggestions it's one of the shortest if not the shortest section in the manual but i am going to expand it to include the entire training um because i don't think we've you know i i think it it matters that this this is needed tonight so um right restoring liberty is hard work and we must uh work to build a culture of liberty even after the material is produced and the material doesn't create itself spontaneously. So what I'm saying is that we build in the Tree of Liberty Society, we have materials.

We produce books, we produce videos, we produce pamphlets, pass along cards, Slim Jims, Facebook posts, memes, all kinds of different things. But it doesn't do us any good if we produce it and nobody distributes. what's been produced so even after we as an organization have done the hard work of producing it it needs to go somewhere from there that's where the hard work um comes in and so asking the question how are others going to understand these truths and then act on them if we don't share them right it's important we don't we are not information junkies where we are only here to learn we are here to learn as a recipe as part of it is as one of the ingredients in effective action, okay? So if we are just here to just learn and do nothing else, this is the wrong place to be. We are here to learn and then act upon that knowledge. And so in the member manual, in the section on comments and suggestions, I talk about building understanding of yourself and others is in the number one and others is the most, the number one most important piece of the solution.

Because you can't do anything else if you're not building understanding. And then building the understanding of yourself and others is also the number one most hated solution. It's the most dismissed solution. It's the most rolled your eyes out solution. And I think it's because they don't have the understanding. Because if they did have the understanding, they would recognize how important understanding was. And so too often, right, we say, well, you know, and I like to quote what Joyce said in, her report on going through the boot camp was she thought she knew, right? And then realized going through it that, you know, this is stuff she didn't know. And so we never know what we don't know. And so it's, and that's why we think, because we think we know things, we've gone through other organizations, boot camps, we've read other books on things. And so we think we have enough detail, but frankly, the fact is that We've all been brainwashed through media, through government schools, through the books and boot camps we've gone through.

And so we think we're ready to go do something, but it's based on faulty and really bad information that the conspiracy has put out there to make sure that we are as ineffective as possible. And so it's really kind of almost a start over point where we're like, okay, we need to forget what we've learned before and come here with... look at the raw data. That's something that I focus a lot on is, hey, I am saying something that is not something that people are used to. And so I need to show the receipts so that you can really have a place where you can be at a place where you're like, okay, I can trust that what was being shared is true because they're showing me the receipts right there. And so we need to start building the understanding. And that's really where the hard work is, because too often we have an easy solution that is really pawning it off to somebody else. And that's what really all of these all solutions are, whether it's religious neutralism through, oh, it's the rapture, nothing we can do about it. So why try, meaning you're not going to do anything or we have a political solution.

So we're going to get the right guy elected and he's going to solve all the problems from us, which means what? You don't have to do anything. Or you have courts, which means what? You don't have to do anything. So every solution the conspiracy puts out there gives the government more power and takes responsibility away from us as individuals, which is the exact opposite, the inverse of what is needed and necessary is personal responsibility. All of us need to be working hard. All of us need to be actively engaged. And that begins with proper understanding, because really, do we find anyone that wants to understand the internal principles understood? and used to build free societies they want to go out there and just go try to get somebody elected they want to go do a rally and talk about a principle that they can see if they heard on conspiracy radio or saw on conspiracy television they don't want to go back and look at the details and find out what are the raw principles behind what's going on and actually finding out they're just stuck in this left right oh democrats said this so i need to do the opposite and so they don't want to take the time and invest the time to find out the principles and finding out if what they're doing is actually effective or right.

So most people, right, they want to react to the hot issue of the day. And that is exactly how the conspiracy manipulates you into working on solutions that can't work. It's not like, oh, if we just worked on it a little bit harder, if we just did this, you know, if we just got to know more people in Congress, you know, we got to get, yeah, we have a majority of Republicans, but there are too many rhinos. So we just got to work harder and vote harder. It's designed to get you to focus on things that can't work, that they're not working, that it's impossible to work. They are trying to defy gravity. And then I want to give an example of one of our members, Simon. He's a member in Juap County. And he went door to door in his small town passing out flyers for our monthly class, inviting them out to it, explaining what it is.

And he got it out to the people in his small town. He knocked on their door, and when someone was home, he talked to them, and he personally invited them to the class. This principle is in the member manual. So I'm giving you a real-life example of someone following what's in the manual. It usually takes seven impressions before someone interested in something in that thing will take action, right? You see an ad for a new food, and even on the first ad, you're like, that looks interesting, but it usually takes about seven impressions on average, studies show, before you actually take action on that thing. And so even though it was just a one flyer, attendance increased and will exponentially increase as the people in this community are exposed. to our material through his efforts, through the flyers, through the announcements, through the classes themselves. Okay. So this is some of the work that he did. I'm not sure if he's come on my, maybe you can add to this, but these are the things that he did. He read the book Invasion. He attended and or watched afterwards if he couldn't attend live our trainings.

He does it all regularly, very religiously. He went through the boot camp and then he wanted to have, you know, I asked him. if he would organize classes in his area and so he went and he put forth the effort and he found a location for the boot camp so just kind of back up a little bit Simon he's not it's not like he's a college student or he's somebody that's on disability and has all the time in the world to do something he he has a family he's married kids owns his own company right he's active in his community it's not like he has no time it's not like he has all the time in the world this is somebody that said I am going to sacrifice and I'm going to put forth the effort that is needed to make this a success. So he found a location, he scheduled the room, and he did it for several months in advance. Then he went through and decided what topics he wanted to cover. He became familiar with the presentation, and then he made the first two presentations on his own.

He did it himself. and he you but he utilizes the tools that we provided right we went through the effort we provided the tools for him but he made the effort of studying it getting to know it making it his own and then giving the presentation and he posted flyers in the community building made public announcements asked for help from the tree of liberty society to produce a local flyer he distributed the flyer to his community personally and then he showed up right that's kind of that's That's the key. Doesn't do a lot of good to do all that work and not show up. But he showed up and he did it. He presented. And, you know, he's not somebody that's he says that, you know, he doesn't like speaking in public. He doesn't do it often. And this I think he said it was his first time he ever did public speaking.

And so he overcame that one of the most common fears that almost everyone has and did it. And then he talked to people after the class and in between the weeks that followed. And so these are things that, you know, he saw what needed to be done and he did the work. And so this is a great example of something that we all should follow. This is an example that we can do. And whether it's an application, this specific application, or we can follow this concept. and do it in an area that we're more excited about, which is fine. But I wanted to show you an example of, yes, there are people doing this, and it did produce fruit, which was fantastic. So just I want to, you know, in all the things that he did, imagine what he'll be able to do as the Tree of Liberty Site grows in his area because of his efforts, and he has more people then helping his efforts. So if he was able to do all of that by himself, just magnify that per person, and it's going to have, Just huge, huge impact in that area.

And the same thing about what, imagine what will happen when you do that same thing and put similar effort in your areas of interest, whether that's presentations, whether that's book distribution, whether that's in organizing, you know, a speaker to come to a group that you know of, whatever it is that your interests are, you put that much effort into it, you're not going to be able to help but have positive. and growing fruits from that and so this outline is in the manual and is available for you to follow i'm here for to to help you every step of the way to fill the gaps where maybe you don't feel comfortable or you've got a question you need help um i'm here to fill the gap for you in that and so but sometimes i think when when our when i produce something whether it's a video a pamphlet a trifold a sum gem a pass along card or a book or whatever it is right it might come across and I know this myself I'm not this isn't a criticism this is just I'm noticing it in myself when I see these things it just right we just this thought comes in my head I want a book that documents how the international conspiracy has infiltrated our communities and what effective strategies have been used throughout time to combat such a threat and so I had that thought in my head and all of a sudden poof there's the book right no effort was put into it Nobody designed the cover. Nobody edited the content. It just all of a sudden I wanted it to happen.

And there it was because, you know, when I see these things happen with other people, I'm not involved in the day to day process of all of the effort to make that thing come into be. And so it feels like it just was just was there one day. And so I wanted to kind of go over the things that the effort that it goes into making. this organization and so in seeing how that effort needs to be supported and magnified the work of building understanding right the of course as I often say is effective application starts with understanding and so to create understanding the information of course has to be researched it doesn't just pop up all of a sudden and it's not just there in front of me we've got to go digging And then that information has to be organized. A lot of this stuff is just all over the place and it has to be designated to certain topics in certain areas and put together so that it can be found later on to be put in the relevant areas and used in relevant videos or relevant chapters or relevant sections of training, whatever the case may be.

And then it needs to be collated to be found and then compiled into the right place. and then written in a coherent narrative if i just um and i've done this before and certain things where i just had a a couple hundred pages of documents just raw documents and i just said here you go and it never got read because it doesn't you know like what's what is the what's the background what is the context why does this matter why is this important why am i going to read through all these pages when maybe the only relevant data is on a couple of pages maybe even only on one page And so it needs to, once the research has been done, organized and correlated, it needs to be put into a narrative where people understand the context. And like last week with the training, I think with the release of the document by itself, you know, without understanding the narrative, the document all by itself was irrelevant. It didn't matter. Nobody, you know, who cares? But when you understand the background and the context, then all of a sudden you're like, oh, okay, this is a pretty big deal. And so that narrative, right, coming up with a coherent narrative to be able to help people understand why it matters, why it's important, and how to apply it is essential.

And then present it in a manner that will interest people into investing the time it needed to consume. So whether it is in a book cover or whether it's in a thumbnail for a video or an article. And the very beginning of the video. needs to grab people or the thumbnail needs to grab people. It needs to be presented in a manner where people are like, why am I going to read this 300 page book? Why am I going to watch this 30 minute video? So again, for a video, a script has to be written, a video filmed, relevant B-roll collected, find appropriate video and audio elements to enhance the experience and edit it all together, create an attractive thumbnail to attract interest. It takes a minimum of 8 to 12 hours for a basic 15-minute video, right? We're talking about all the things that go into it. And it might seem like, oh, that's just 15 minutes.

He just rattles off the top of his head. But the amount of preparation, the amount of behind-the-scenes work that has to be done, it leads to many, many, many, many hours invested to be able to produce this 15-minute video. And then... If it's not utilized, then that 8 to 12 hours could have been maybe used in a different way. And so it's important that these things are used because of the amount of time and resources that are invested into producing them. And we have articles or pamphlets, booklets, books. It's got to be written in a coherent narrative. It's got to be edited for grammar and clarity and rewritten and edited again. Relevant images are then curated, thumbnails designed. The flyer is then designed to present written information in an interactive manner. And so it takes five to seven hours after all the research has been compiled and organized. And so that's not including the research time. We're just talking about, and this isn't the book, of course.

The book took countless hours to put together. We're just talking about booklets, pamphlets, pass-along materials, the amount of time that goes into producing them. is massive. And so those are the tools in building the work of building awareness. So I want to talk about each section because even with the overview that I just gave, it really doesn't give the big picture of every level that is needed and necessary to make all of these happen. And so even with this, I've left some things out, but I think it'll start to give you a picture of the resources and time that is necessary to be able to do what it is that we do. And so just look at the section of building of education development. The education development side of the Tree of Liberty Society, we provide members with tools to build members understanding and provide members with action items. And so we create and maintain educational training and training materials, including dossiers.

You can find that in the member portal. Establishing an onboarding process, assessing the need for new member tools, and then work with the technology team to implement and maintain member tools. The technology on the website and how one little update that happens with the developer changes. the access and the availability of certain parts of the website. With that, you know, we didn't even do anything. It was just an update that was automatically done. And all of a sudden we have to go in and fix all of the bugs that that created on the website. And so we've got to be able to work together with them to make sure that it all operates smoothly. Okay. And the next thing is publications. We have content creation. It's primarily for the public. I forgot the F, for the public. And so a lot of times they use transcripts and presentations and trainings. and then turn them into flyers, pamphlets, bulletin articles, articles on the website, and then format those things.

And then they publish the articles or the books that I've written. And then they create artwork for the books or other publications for the article or the pamphlet for the Slim Jim. And then, of course, editing, making sure that my horrible grammar skills are presented in a way that doesn't make us look stupid. and then ensuring the research is accurate and the sources are clear. And so we have a process where we go through, I'll be going through the research and I'll say, okay, here's the book, here's the publisher, here's the page number. And then somebody else goes and looks up that source on their own, independent, and so that they can say, okay, yes, if I were to go research this on my own, I would be able to find it and it's accurate. It's giving the information exactly. as Ben said it would be in the footnote.

So that way you can trust it and then you can use it for your own research as well. Additionally building, right, we have the social media area and it's a convenient way for the public to share links to the Tree of Liberty Society content and then of course engage, interact with their own comments and then talk to other people, ask questions, that kind of a thing. And so we have, of course, we're managing those social media channels where we have X and Facebook and Instagram and Telegram and our YouTube community. And so YouTube doesn't just have videos, but they have an area where you can post articles, post memes, post links, and that's all available on our YouTube channel as well.

And then we post links to events, articles, videos, classes, and announcements. and all these other areas and then of course engaging with visitors people have questions or comments or something they want to discuss and so being able to answer them in a way that represents the position of the tree of liberty society and is accurate and helpful is something that takes a lot of time with that engagement another thing we work on is of course community engagement where we have social events to build camaraderie and culture We're putting names to faces and giving members an opportunity to know one another in a more personal way. So we organize monthly luncheons or dinners, working on that, and then our annual barbecue, develop and maintain social elements such as our members-only Facebook pages on Facebook and Telegram. We gather and relay feedback to improve community offerings as well.

You can see because, so these are all the things that we have and that we have goals to do, but because of limited resources, some of these things don't get implemented as perfectly as we would like them to, which I'm talking about tonight. So there's a technology side I mentioned a little bit, and I'm going to get a little bit more into it, is improve, streamline, and automate as many processes as possible, because we know that most people out there are not computer savvy. And so we want to make getting on our website as easy as possible. I remember we got some feedback on logging into the member portal. It was at the bottom of the site. And so it wasn't obvious. It wasn't intuitive. And so we added it to the very top bar. And so that hopefully made it easier to be able to find and access and be able to get into the member portal. So we want to make it automated and streamlined as much as possible. You want to maintain and improve internal systems and content delivery platforms, troubleshoot and support tech for content creation or those member tools. And then the next section is the finance department.

We couldn't exist. without this we ensure that the tree of liberty society has the resources needed to operate and there's operation and there's thriving and so that you know there's uh depending on the resources it depends on what that is and so of course for forecasting expenses establishing a budget website hosting and maintenance subscriptions for research editing production automation work to raise funds to maintain and grow operations So there's a lot of different things that we spend money on just to keep things going every month that it might not be obvious. There are a lot of different fees involved in, you know, for editing images, for editing videos, for hosting, for not only hosting the website, but hosting podcasts and the different subscriptions that we have for making sure that we just provide you the things that everybody just gets for free and that they are um accustomed to and used to and so it's because of members that allow us to provide these tools uh to the public to be able to benefit from and so we also of course our video production what that what that takes and entails we create videos that build understanding and motivate viewers to action again as i said earlier it's vital that we um don't just give you the latest and greatest gossip but we show you why action needs to be taken.

So we create the scripts that then will help with our mission and then we'll film based on that original footage and then using the scripts will add b-roll to the images, we'll find audio to accompany that original video that was filmed to be able to meet with the script and be able to be produced in a way That is something that you're pleased with and happy to be able to share with others. And then after we put that together, we combine the content into a format. We edit it out of the final video and then create promotional images such as thumbnails. And then, of course, publishing the content, working with the social media and the website so that it can be embedded on the website that can be put on the different platforms and so that we can reach as many people as possible. taking hours upon hours to get that done.

And of course, research. What does it take to do the research that we do? I've said before in training that it takes, you know, roughly three months of research to get one little nugget of information that can be shared because of how much data has to be gone through. We have to find and curate relevant data for original content, such as our videos, our articles, and our books. We do this through coming through online archives, such as archive.org. We'll find we'll be reading one document, and it'll reference another document. And so the first thing and easiest thing, of course, instead of traveling around everywhere, we'll go to archive.org and say, is that document online? Either it's at archive.org or on another website that has data. I mentioned last week the LDS Church's um history website that has a document scan so that you go there to see if you go to the special collections library at different universities and see if they've scanned it yet and put it up there and so going to all these different websites to be able to see if a document is is available out there somewhere and if it's not right um well and we'll get to that in a second but we also find video footage to document the relevant facts We network with other researchers that may have documents that we're looking for.

So a lot of times what we'll find is someone else had connections to somebody and they have a document in their personal collection. And so trying to work with them and a lot of times, especially in the document community, they don't, you know, people will, they guard these documents and they don't want to just give them out because they went through a lot of effort and time to. to collect them. And so they either want, you know, they're either not going to want to share if they don't know you and they're not friends with you, or they're going to want to trade. And so our accumulation of hard to find documents actually helps us find or get access to other people's documents that they have. And so being able to make trades with people to be able to get access and get our own copies of hard to find documents.

And then sometimes you just have to go somewhere. You just have to travel to and go through institutional archives, such as state or university or religious institutions records and scanning for use. And so, you know, it takes them time to be able to scan things and put them on their websites. And so sometimes you just got to travel and go and dig through all of the stuff that they have and find the thing that you're looking for. And then there's lots of institutions out of travel range. So you need to work with them through electronic communications to obtain needed materials, emails, phone calls. And hey, Yale, we've got this thing from James Strang that he talks about being a member of the Illuminati. Can you send me the papers that you guys have? And so they scan them and then they send them to you.

And a lot of times that costs money. some documents that I had to get from a university that I had to spend $200 to get the documents to be able to say, okay, I know that it says what people are saying it says, and that I can use that as a reliable source that you can depend on and then put them on the archives so that then you can research them yourself. And so all the things that I've talked about, other organizations do those things. And so I want to give you an idea of what... Not we're not talking like we're not talking to huge organizations. These two organizations, I'm going to give examples of what they spend, what are their budgets to be able to do what I just talked about.

And so the first one I'm talking about the John Birch Society, they spend seven to ten million dollars a year to be able to do the things that they do, which covers most of what I just talked about. And then another organization we talk about or I'm bringing up here. is Libertas, Utah-based. You go outside of Utah, most people have never even heard of them, and they spend $14 million a year to do what it is that they do, okay? So the amount of money that the average organizations, the ones that you've heard of out there, you know, FreedomWorks, all these kind of things, this is a small change compared to those organizations and their operations budgets and what they spend.

And so, right, so even if you don't see the unique nature of the Tree of Liberty Society, I hope that you recognize that the other organizations, they're doing just fine. And maybe the priority could be shifted over to what we're doing at the Tree of Liberty Society. I do hope that we've done a good job in showing you the unique nature of the Tree of Liberty Society and how important it is, the work that we do. But, you know, if you still think that we're just another one of the same thing, hopefully you can see that, hey, you know.

Maybe we can help the Tree of Liberty Society since these other organizations are obviously doing okay. So I'll give you an example of what's led to some of the situation that we're in. Several years ago, the CEO of an influential company company connected to key financial institutions in Utah, also across the country, came to me and said that he'll ensure that I'm homeless for what I'm doing. Okay. Using his influence to ensure that we have no way either blocking financial institutions or making it. And so getting resources doesn't happen. He said that his job, his goal is to ensure that I'm homeless because of what I do. And so another example of what's happened is I was blackballed in 2012 with an FBI federal criminal record, even though I've never been charged or convicted of a crime.

And which, you know, as a result, kind of a good thing, it forced me to go into business for my own and start these organizations where I wasn't distracted by just trying to, quote unquote, feed my family, but to create these things that would actually go on the offense. against these people. And so I wanted to find out what criminal background I had that I was getting back saying, no, you have a FBI, you have a federal criminal record, we can't work with you. And so I issued a FOIA for Infirmative Information Act to see what crime they said I had committed. And the FBI sent a letter saying that it would violate national security to release that information.

We can neither confirm or deny. But if we were to tell you what it was, it would be a threat to national security. And so compared to those other organizations, our revenue is something we don't really talk about a lot just for obvious reasons. We don't want to let our enemies know what's going on. But we only get about $2,000 a month to cover all of our costs. All of those things that I talked about to be able to do all those things, those subscriptions, in addition to being able to provide. so that I can do this. And then we would like to be able to get more people to do that. But of course, with that kind of resources, being able to even do what we do with the resources that we have is impossible. And so, right, to do what we do, it takes time and money. So in the eight outlined areas of responsibilities that I talked about above, it takes time and volunteers with the talent and ability to accomplish. To be able to do those things, we need to find people that have time and are willing to volunteer their talent, right? We don't want somebody that only knows how to use Microsoft Paint to create a thumbnail or to create a book cover. We want somebody that has the ability and the talent to do those types of things and to volunteer for that. Or for any of these types of jobs I mentioned above, we just have to get the resources to hire somebody to do those things for us. Those are the only two ways to make those things happen.

They don't happen any other way. If we don't have time, we have to have money. And not all of those things do we have people that have the talent and the ability to volunteer their time to help out. And so to be able to accomplish it, we have to be able to have the resources to find someone that will do it or can do it. And so if we don't have the time, which costs money, and we don't have the materials, which also cost money to produce. everything that we do disappears. So just think of the things that we produce and have published and have put out there that are exclusive to us, that nobody else talks about, that you found out because it was something that we talked about and we're out there talking about, right? We don't have the time. We don't have the money. Then everything that we do and have published goes away.

It just can't exist. And so also recognizing that if we weren't being attacked, right, if we were not accomplishing anything, If we're not a threat to the conspiracy, we wouldn't be attacked. We wouldn't be banned on Amazon. We wouldn't be banned on YouTube. We wouldn't have a team raid into my home in an attempt to kill me. We wouldn't have my home burnt down and have the fire department refuse to investigate the cause of the fire and refuse to put out the fire. You don't have the state kidnapping you if you're not trying to kidnap your child. That's something my daughter. when she was in the hospital and the state threatened to kidnap her and steal her from us. You don't have these things happen to you if you're not a threat and if you're not accomplishing anything. And so even with the resources, right? You look at the resources we have that I just laid out for you versus the resources of other organizations that really aren't that big either.

And we are having a bigger impact as measured by attacks on us. than other organizations are. And so can you just imagine what we'd be able to accomplish if we had the budget that these other even smaller organizations had or have. So, right, we want to talk about, of course, the things that don't work, as always, is courts, right? This just came out earlier this year where a judge lets a guy off for child porn because of his privilege. Voting harder doesn't work. Political heroes, depending on them, doesn't work. But what's proven to work throughout history, throughout time, are the things that we cover in our member manual. And so I'm hoping that you will invest your time and resources with conviction so that when the story is told, you can say without hesitation, I did all I could. I stood against tyranny and then let your efforts become a legacy of courage. Not a regret of missed opportunities. And so that's it. I was able to actually finish this.

Maybe I went through it too fast. I don't know. We're basically at the end of our meeting. But I wanted to share that with us and so that we could start to understand and recognize, maybe even more distinguish how we're special and how we're different than everybody else. Also understand what's at stake. and understand the importance of following the pattern that is in the member manual of growth, of making sure and helping that the Tree of Liberty Society grow and have new members grow in finances. You know, find things that maybe if you feel like you're like, I don't want to just throw money at an organization. I want to fund a specific project or a specific item. You know, that's fine. But resources are vital. Time is vital. And so I'm interested in encouraging and asking you to spend that time that's necessary to make these things happen so that we can grow, so that we can stay and be here for the long term. Yes, Joyce.

I think that you ending on time like that is just symbolic of how hard you've been working with so little resources and made such a huge difference. Interesting. You didn't think you would end on time, but there it is. There it is. Thank you. And your presentation does make me want to do more. Well, thank you. Good. Appreciate it. Okay, well, it is 10 o'clock, so let's go ahead and close with a prayer. And then we can have an open forum and ask questions, have comments, whatever you guys want to talk about. But I'm going to ask Pam if you would give the closing prayer for us. Are you available? What's her last name? I think this is Pan Clinch. Are you there, Pan? Oh, no mic. Sorry. Okay. Then, Mark, would you say the closing prayer for us? Sure. Thank you.

Our Heavenly Father, thank you for this opportunity tonight to better ourselves so we can do a better job of serving you, Lord. Thank you for all this knowledge that's been shared with us tonight. Help us to take it seriously. Please use your spirit, God, to help us learn how we can carry this message in our lives to others so we can grow this organization for the purpose of serving you, God. And we ask you for your blessing on our organization and our leader. In Jesus' name, I pray, we pray. Amen. Amen. Thank you so much, Mark.

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