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Member Training – Evolution & The Conspiracy Part 3

Posted by Ben McClintock, Wednesday, 28 May 2025. Training held Monday, 12 May 2025.

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Member training from May 12th, 2025.

This presentation, Evolution and the Conspiracy Part 3,  In this discussion, Micah explored how mainstream scientific theories—particularly evolution, carbon dating, and geologic processes—are built upon what I believe to be flawed premises, manipulated data, and even intentional deception. Micah began by revisiting the idea that cosmic and species evolution violate natural laws, asserting that natural selection is a conservative force that does not generate new genetic information. From there, Micah covered notable scientific experiments like the Miller-Urey study, Heackel’s embryo drawings, and the Piltdown Man hoax, arguing these are either misrepresented or fraudulent. Micah questioned the reliability of carbon dating due to assumptions about atmospheric conditions and organism diets, and Micah discussed rapid fossilization and canyon formation to counter the idea that these processes take millions of years. Finally, Micah tied it all together by asserting that evolution serves as a tool to undermine belief in God and liberty, asserting that true freedom is only possible under divine law. Micah concluded by warning that a global conspiracy uses science and academia to control truth and suppress evidence that supports a creationist worldview.

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Dear Heavenly Father, we thy sons and daughters, servants of the Republic, come before thee at this time, thanking me for the opportunity we have together tonight to discuss the principles of liberty and the elements that are seeking to destroy that liberty that thou hast granted unto us. We thank thee for thy eternal principles and thy love and thy miracles. And we thank thee for all the opportunities that we have to learn more and to do more in thy service. We thank thee for the privilege of listening to Ben and those that work with him.

Please inspire their voices and inspire the messages that they will present and that we can have open hearts and open minds to listen. perform those acts that are necessary to restore our republic and to convey the messages to all that we come in contact with, that they may hear our voices and know that we speak the truth. Father, we ask that I bless us of peace upon our souls this night and that our minds will be open to future messages and any inspiration that may come during this meeting. We pray according to our faith in the sacred and holy name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

All right. So just a little recap, you know, previously on the Tree of Liberty Society Monday night training. I hope that came through. It did. So we were talking about, we started off this entire shindig with talking about cosmic evolution, how it violates many laws of nature. And in order to justify this, basically they just say that there's there's no time uh before the universe began so there's you can't cause and effect goes out the window so that basically they can just do whatever they want and then uh and then what i believe is the reality of was there there is no there is no big bang there's no beginning because everything is eternal it has no end and therefore if it is eternal that means it has no beginning And then we went on and we talked about species evolution, organic evolution, and the laws of procreation, where natural selection is a conservative process. Things only lose genetic information. There is no creation of genetic information.

There is no new genetic information. If you put an organism in the wild, it will return to its natural state. Unless it's so deficient, it basically just dies. Like a chihuahua. Any organism that goes too far from its natural state is sterile. It cannot reproduce. Such as, you know, like mules and ligers and bananas from the store. Anything, any seedless fruit or vegetable. Certain behaviors and genetic traits are amplified in different environments. So you can have an amplification of genetic code if the environment is different. And organisms only produce their own kind. So on to chapter three, now that we've had our little recap, which is called Lies, Lies, and More Lies. And so this chapter is just going over some very, just a very few. exceedingly documented lies. The reality with all this stuff is it's like whack-a-mole. They're coming up with something every five seconds and it's always junk. Sometimes it takes a while to show up that it's junk.

This section is about that junk and why it's junk and how long some of them it took to be seen as junk and and how on earth they keep getting away with this they keep coming up with new nonsense and just lying and lying and and and people seem to believe them so just a little recap here for the organic life um again so in the beginning there was a rock and then it just rained on the rock forever and it made the primordial soup and a bunch of lightning came down and zapped ourself into a frankenstein single-celled organism and so that's that's kind of their beginning their abrogenesis i believe is the word that they use and so but of course they're you know we'll give a little bit a little bit more soup there just to help them out with their story but of course there is a problem with this and even if you get dna or all these building blocks you still have to have a cell And they got to exist at the same time and in perfect harmony.

Otherwise it doesn't work. You know, the DNA, the DNA, the RNA, everything, none of that, none of that is, can exist outside of a cell. It just, it'll get destroyed and it needs the cell in order to replicate itself and provide instructions. You know, it's just, none of it matters unless it all exists simultaneously. But regardless, these conspiring men, decided to put it to the test, which is rather bold of them. I think they ignored it for a long time. And so in the Miller-Uray experiment, 1953, and so they did this. They got a bunch of this stuff, this primordial ooze that supposedly it was, and they put it in a bunch of test tubes and na-na-na, and they sparked the heck out of it. And they zapped the heck out of it and they just kept doing it. And the goal was to make the building blocks for life. This happened at the Chicago University, University of Chicago.

And it was Oure was the professor. Miller was one of his students. And so Oure was the one directing it. It actually took them several years to release their findings or what I would say lack thereof. basically because Urey kept not wanting to release it because, you know, it was just junk. And so he was trying to figure out how to, you know, release it in a way that would say what they want. And so just to give you a little bit of a precursor here, Urey, of course, is a Nobel Prize winner. And even to this day, the National Academy of Sciences has... a Stanley Miller medal, which is his student, Oure's student. So they still recognize this radical failed experiment as something legitimate.

And as the National Academy of Sciences says, this is on their website right now, the ability of organic compounds to form under the Earth's atmospheric conditions, while criticism now exists as to how accurately Miller's experiment emulated Earth's early atmospheric conditions. Miller's findings still provide invaluable insight into the formation of essential organic compounds. And of course, NASA's got to put their stuff in there. They're trying to give these people legitimacy. So a classic experiment, this is what they said about the experiment, proving amino acids are created when inorganic molecules are exposed to electricity isn't the whole story, it turns out.

And this particular article keeps going on saying like, well, you know, it wasn't that great, but, you know, it's got a future because we're going to try to use it to colonize other planets with germs or something. it's ridiculous they've got this whole astrobiology yes that's right there in their title there and so i'm just gonna let this gentleman here explain this a little bit um because he does a really good job let's see here doesn't the famous miller uri experiment show that life can form without god in 1952 a long time ago this seems like the best they've got still but what did they do they had some gases they had hydrogen methane and ammonia and some water vapor they put some sparks through it they got a few of the 20 amino acids required for protein formation and they claimed that this had something to do with the origin of life but they got left and right-handed amino acids so you only need you can only have left-handed amino acids if you're going to have functional proteins Also, it has to have no oxygen present because if you have any oxygen, you have an explosion or you burn the stuff.

So could the Earth's early atmosphere have ever been devoid of oxygen? No, because if you have water vapor, you have cosmic rays zapping the water vapor and making oxygen. The comment was just that the volume was low, so I don't know if that's something you can affect. I'm sorry, I can't help it on this. It's just low, I think. But quite deceptive to claim it's got something to do with the origin of life. Anyway. Okay, sorry. I accidentally paused it there because I have no idea what I'm doing. So basically, they just made a bunch of stuff and it didn't really matter. There was text on the screen. I'm sorry. And so they just did all this zapping and they didn't even make half of what they needed even to make a single protein, let alone anything approaching anything close to a cell. It's just a bunch of crap.

So here's another thing, a very early thing. So this is early drawings of fetuses at the very beginning of stages of embryo, claiming from the very beginning of conception. This was drawn by Ernst Heckel in 1868. And according to the Arizona State University, one of the professors there did a study i examined 240 high school biology textbooks formed 1907 from 1907 to 2010. the embryo grids contained prominence in the 1940s gained prominence in the 1940s and the trend continued until criticisms of heckles re-emerged in the late 1990s discussion about embryos and evolution dropped significantly dropped significantly it's still in books Here's another piece from Cambridge University. Ernst Haeckel's illustrations in biology were challenged as forgeries soon after their publication 140 years ago.

So here's what he drew. And this nonsense is still in some textbooks. Here's some pictures. 1997. So of all these things and beginning stages, there's basically nothing between them. They look incredibly different. So this has been 140 years, and these things are still considered by some as legitimate. Legitimate enough to put into a textbook. So another problem we have. So I don't know how many people know about the Piltdown Man. This was heralded as a missing link. It was discovered in 1912 in Sussex, England. which i might add is the same area that the uh first dinosaur was allegedly discovered it was accepted immediately as the missing link like nobody tried to examine it nothing and it wasn't until 41 years later in 1953 when the natural history museum had professors arthur woodland and um i don't remember the other guy some other guy they examined it They put it under some scrutiny and they found some problems.

The teeth had been filed down to make them look human. They all discovered that most of the finds from the Piltdown site had been significantly stained to match the local gravels. So they just found some stuff and they just smashed it together and made it look right. Or they made it look like what their imagination said. And this was such a big deal because this is the London Natural History Museum. This is the exact same museum that said originally with the first dinosaur, Iguanodon, that they said the man who originally brought that to them brought them these big teeth. And he said, this is a new animal. And the head of the Natural History Department looked at him and said, like, no way, bro. These things are just rhinoceros teeth. Like we've seen these before. And then about a year and a half later, they call this, they call this guy back and they go, Oh, you know, no, no, that's definitely a new animal. That's definitely a new animal.

This is, and this was right when all the evolution, Charles Darwin and everything was really kind of, the conspiracy was starting to push hard on it. And so this is the same, this is the same museum that originally gave a big okay for evolution and the same institution. And they're like, it's never been studied and so finally they study it and they're like oh yeah it's total total forgery so here's another problem well we're going to talk a little bit about how carbon dating is supposed to work i'm sure you've all heard of carbon dating um where they'll take samples and carbon date them and they go oh this thing is x amount of years old um a little bit for your reference um the Carbon dating, it's claimed that it only works up to 50,000 years old, I believe is the limit that they give it. But that's still enough for them to overcome, they believe, the Bible or whatnot. And so the way that carbon dating is supposed to work is the atmosphere that we breathe has tons of nitrogen in it, which is composed of seven electrons, seven protons, and seven neutrons, which is... a proton and electron put together, so it has no charge.

And cosmic rays come down and they will bump, they collide with the atmosphere and they will throw neutrons off of other atoms. And those, and two of those, when two of those atoms happen to collide with a nitrogen atom, you get a new molecule called carbon-14, which is true. This is, it's not really that controversial. So like this happens, carbon-14 happens. and so but for the carbon dating they go okay so there's plants and they're absorbing the atmosphere and so they will inevitably absorb carbon 14 and then animals will eat those plants and animals also breathe the atmosphere so they will also absorb carbon 14. um but there are some problems with the system so carbon dating the archaeological workhorse is getting a major reboot The basic calculation assumes that the amount of carbon-14 in the environment has been constant in time and space, which it hasn't. In recent decades, the burning of fossil fuel and tests of nuclear bombs have radically altered the amount of carbon-14 in the air.

There are non-anthropogenic wobbles going on much farther back. During planetary magnetic field reversal, for example, more solar radiation enters the atmosphere, producing more carbon-14. the oceans also suck up carbon a little more in the southern hemisphere where there is more ocean and circulate it for centuries further complicating things as a result conversion tables are needed that match up calendar dates with radiocarbon dates in different regions so basically they're like well you know there's different amounts of carbon 14 in the atmosphere all the time and in different places and there's so much stuff that depends on it but it's okay we can totally rework this up to 50 000 years ago and then on top of this we have some other problems and you know this is really controversial you know one mature tree will absorb up to 58 pounds of co2 per year an average lawn absorbs less how about an acre of apples uh you know it absorbs 20 tons of carbon dioxide which includes this carbon dating and so the thing is is all about this carbon is like you don't know how much carbon 14 is in the air during whenever this organism lived and you don't even know how much carbon 14 the organism even consumed when it was alive and you just don't even know what it was eating to even start to calculate that and so basically the whole process is just it's formed on extreme radical garbage it's just it just tons of assumptions have to be made and not just little assumptions basically the entire the only thing that's not an assumption is you can actually measure how much carbon 14 something is emitting because it's a radioactive particle and it breaks off it has a half-life of i don't know like 5 000 years or something uh let's see 5 730 years so every what that what that means is every 530 five thousand three hundred seven hundred and thirty years uh half of the amount of carbon 14 is in the item than it was at year one and it keeps having i don't know if that makes that sense so it's it's junk you can't you can't know you can measure it but you don't know how much was in it to begin with and so the measurement is completely meaningless so this is a little thing somebody made this amazing animation of how the very first dinosaur discovered has changed how paleontologists have changed in their opinion as to what it looked over time it's just a little a little graphic like oh man it must be on two legs now definitely and then now it's back on four legs because why not seems to have some pretty different feet make a little taller give it another claw then this is where we're at now so they the people doing these things they just They want you to assume that they can just find these bones or fossils and that they can just reconstruct a whole animal from a jumble of bones.

And it just doesn't work that way. Really, you need to know how the animal went together to begin with. So you need a living example or you need a fossil preserved in an excellent manner, not scattered. The first dinosaur Iguanodon, it was discovered by, let's see, Gideon Mantle was the guy's name. I don't really have much of a presentation on this, but he formed the first dinosaur out of gator and chicken bones and stuff after he found these teeth, allegedly. And he even claims that his wife found them, and then he goes back and forth saying that he found them. Now, if you look all this stuff up, almost all this is denied haphazardly when before it was documented, which kind of made a problem for me. So I don't really have a presentation on it because I need to do more digging and have time to give you some harder resources. So I don't really have much on it for you, but it's kind of ridiculous. So this is a little presentation on how fossils do not take millions of years to be made. This follows an experiment that I did years ago in a 55-gallon drum, where I mixed layers of hydrated lime and compressed it and buried it underground. I let it sit for 14 years before I opened it up again. And when I did, it was pretty cool. The fish had a remarkable resemblance to the fossils that we find in the Green River Formation. Unfortunately, with this example, there were a lot of cracks. I'm hoping to improve upon that.

But as far as the specimens go, I used fish and squirrels and bugs and lizards and birds. And the results I thought were pretty amazing. We've had fish buried in sediment sitting here for over a year. It's time to open it up. A quick recap on what's happened. Using hydrated lime I mixed up a slurry and embedded several fish into it by letting the surface dry I can make a layer that will cleave apart later on I Put it in a steel case so I could add a ton of pressure 20 tons to be exact with a 20 ton jack so it's back in half and that seemed to do the trick so you can see different layers here here's a sand we put and that's all red and oxidized from the iron plate on top here it's very dark very black kind of looks like a oil shale i'm sure it's not but it could be stained from reduced iron maybe maybe the organics inside i don't know below that we have some oxidized iron that leached through too there's some interesting stuff going on in here after a year of waiting it's the moment of truth wow even in these early stages i think the results are pretty spectacular you can still see there's some skin there's some decay to go a lot of it has decayed in just one year time and this beautiful brown color has developed which is very similar to what we see in the fossils in the Green River Formation.

This is a fedora, a felt hat, and it is literally turned to stone. Not just covered in stone, it's permineralized. Let me show you. And the inside. This basically was hanging off a cliff with a rope, and for two years it turned a felt hat into a heavy piece of rock. This is the same process as the dinosaur bone. What's the difference between the two? Basically very little. Okay, so basically it doesn't take a whole lot of time. We've got these two guys that made fossils. You know, they don't look like they got a big budget and they don't look like they've got a whole lot of knowledge under their belt and they're still making some stuff happen.

And so you can imagine what is... possible if you've got a lot of funding and you really know what you're doing and you get the stuff done yeah so um do you know much about the universal model a little bit yeah i know of them so i went and saw that dude speak and he has a process very similar to what the other dude was doing with applying the pressure but he his also uses um water um but he's able to make fossils in a matter of i don't know if it was hours or days but very very short time he can make fossils and he showed us some of the ones that he had made and he showed us uh pictures and videos of the process but it's pretty interesting because he was talking about how most of the fossils appear in the same layer on the earth and that that would have been the layer where the flood took place and that all you need is like you said i think it's water pressure and time basically to make a fossil so just curious if you knew about that there is a yeah yeah i know those guys are pretty cool i haven't looked into that on them but i've listened to a lot of their lectures on like earth creation and stuff um but yeah there's there's also cases um where people have um like buried their relatives and decided you know i think that they're a little too close to that marsh or something happened in the area and i don't want the grave to be defiled by this whatever whatever phenomena is happening and they dig them up and like the bodies are turned to stone and so it's a lot of that stuff is really hard it used to be a little easier to find it's a lot harder to find the the the algorithms are really doing a good job mopping it up and keeping that stuff from coming out of the surface so there's a lot of things i i found back in the day that i just i couldn't find today um i just couldn't i couldn't find it and so but yeah it doesn't take a lot of time um i did read one claim that there there was a company in america that was selling fossilized flooring i don't really know if it's true i was never able to find this company where they could turn, you know, wood, wood fluorine, they'd turn into stone. And so, you know, they had a process where it took them like a week or something to that effect.

So, but we'll carry on here a little bit. There's no end to the twists and turns and things. This troubled fossil turns out to be a forgery. Paleontology is rife with fake fossils and are made to cash in on... trade but end up interfering with science oh scientists have discovered that natural history museums around the world have counterfeit specimens in their collections this is from scientificamerica.com um here's another another article another science um magazine um the first dinosaur discoveries consisted of only a few bone bones and a handful of teeth before long more complete skeletons began to be found But the individual pieces were usually scattered about in a jumbled mess of material. Often they had been crushed and distorted by the immense pressures at work during and after the process of fossilization. For that reason, paleontologists had to work hard to assemble dinosaurs into something that resembled real live animals. In doing so, they relied not only on the available evidence, but also on inference, judgment, and their imagination. Let's see. So I know I said last week.

I don't know if everyone heard it, but I once went to the University of Utah Natural History Museum and they had their dino fossil lab was open. And I got to talk to one of the guys who's grinding away at it. And he told me, I was like, where did this fossil come from? And he gave me a really short answer. And I was like, no, no, like, where did it come from? And how did it get here? Like, who touched it? And he gave me a really good... a really good synopsis he's like well and then this and he gave me names too he's like this person found it and this person and this person you know dug it up and then this person and this person put all the plaster of paris around it and this person wrapped it because i actually have different companies that do a lot of this stuff and so they had a pretty good chain of custody except for i would argue the very beginning which was he said that that fossil that he was working on specifically came out of a warehouse in Vernal.

And so they've got these massive warehouses where they've got dinosaur fossil hotspots, and they will build a warehouse over the spot without a floor. And it's all under lock and key. So, you know, I think that's a really great opportunity for people to just go plant stuff. A lot of these things are just found in these areas. Dinosaurs are basically always... almost exclusively found by paleontologists. They're never really found by a farmer digging in this field. rare and so it's just it's really suspicious let's see here i don't even remember so this is gonna be this is gonna be a five minute video a little bit on how radical land formations do not take millions of years to form like what they would tell you if you went down to moab and and looked at the amazing canyons and zions national park and stuff Can a mud flow also cut down rather than just, you know, go through bridges or collect bridges and so forth? Can it also cut down in below? Yes, and now mud is seen to do that on the slopes of Mount St. Helens. The two canyons on the north slope of the volcano are very deep. Step Canyon is over 600 feet deep, eroded through solid rock, made by moving mud after the summer of 1980. And there's another canyon called Lewitt Canyon, where it's over 100 feet deep, roaded through solid rock. 500-year-old lava flow. It didn't take tens of thousands of years to do that. It was basically mud moving down that channel very rapidly, plucking away and grabbing solid rock and excavating a canyon. we see a 25-foot thickness of layered volcanic ash.

That's the pyroclastic flow deposit from June 12, 1980. And it formed just in the three hours there, late in the evening. And then this pit sat here with the landslide debris and the other kinds of material, the volcanic ash all around it. and then mud flow of march 19 1982 that came down here at 90 miles an hour it filled in this low area the pit with mud and you're seeing the residue of the mud about 25 feet in thickness there at the top of the cliff as the mud came into this pit it actually filled the pit with a hundred foot thickness of mud the pit was filled and then what happened is the mud overtopped the debris dam that was downstream of here and then it cut a spillway over the top of that dam which cut back through here and gouged out the bottom of this pit and released the mud downstream and so the canyon formed in a day on march 19 1982. by the drainage of the mud in this big pit through the debris avalanche.

So you sit here and you look at the complexity of the geological formations, and it would be easy for someone if we just blindfolded on them, brought them down here and took their blindfold off to look around and think, as a lot of people do, man, this is really, really old. look at all these different layers and all of the stuff that's going on and yet at all each of these layers is laid down rapidly within a day and breached within a day yeah so that's amazing so although it's spread out over two years period each of those individual events happens in just minutes or hours so we end up having a very complex geological formation here that was all done rapidly yeah You know, when I see thin layers, I think of slow and gradual sedimentation, one sand grain at a time. And that was my normal way of thinking. But here at the volcano, I learned that grains can segregate rapidly in layers by hurricanes, essentially. Those pyroclastic flows make thin layers in just seconds. And mud flows can move very fast, 90 miles an hour. and bring big boulders and lots of debris. And of course, they're very erosive.

And so we see the power of these agents and the speed of these agents. And fortunately, because Mount St. Helens, I can understand those processes and I can go elsewhere and see if I see the same thing. Right. So you go around the world and you see those complex geological formations, and it's easy to see how rapidly they could have formed as well, is that right? Rapid stratification, rapid erosion, that's the story at Mount St. Helens, and it's the story around the world. It's easy, or somewhat easy, for a mudflow to lose its momentum and just become very rapidly a sediment layer. And that shows up in the fossil record as some of these massive beds. And so this energy that has come back to our discussions of mud has proven very beneficial for the understanding of limestone layers. I can see the effects in limestones, how fossils are buried. Sandstones with graded beds and these coarse clastic layers called conglomerates with large pebbles floating in mud matrix.

All of this has tremendous implications from the mud flow angle of looking at it. So when I drive around and I see a lot of these sedimentary layers, I ought to be thinking more about how it used to be mud than the way I used to think of it. kind of mud flow also cut kind of mud okay so basically everything yeah you ever walk down a canyon and you and maybe you look at some kind of formation of rocks or some kind of sedimentary layer and it's like at some crazy angle you know that's what's going on it's just the pile of mud and it it just kind of stopped that way it's real thick and viscous so this brings us to You know, but the conspiracy has this idea of the geologic column and they say all these canyons, you know, took millions and millions, gajillions of years to form as a tiny little stream slowly ate it all away.

And like, nah, it's all basically, it all happened real quick after the flood of Noah, unless there was other, some kind of other extreme event like Mount St. Helens. And so this geologic column is, There are columns, but they're not all of them together in its entirety. It only exists in books. So that's just a little note. This kind of stuff. They got all these little families. No, this thing came out of this. We're all from monkeys or whatever. They keep going back and forth in this, and they change all their special families. There are no special families. This is all just... It's all just a work of fiction. So a little recap. Life cannot come from a soup of nonsense. Fossils do not take millennia to form. Fake sciences are invented to back up claims such as carbon dating and the geologic column. Bones do not arrange themselves into order.

Live. live examples or an excellent example really needs to exist to even start to put it together because there's ligaments and muscles that pull everything together and those those don't stay and the conspiracy changes histories and sciences whatever to suit whatever they need and the claim of all of this change is they go well the science is working as they're always going to say that oh the science is working we change our mind when we get when we get new evidence yeah you They change their mind when it suits them. That's the only thing they do. And so, and they just continually just beat this nonsense into us to claim that it's going to work. So how do they keep getting away with this? How do they keep lying to people and people keep believing them? So, you know, like a hundred, over 140 years. You know, heckles drawings of the fetus all being identical. I mean, it's just total nonsense from the get go. And it's still in books to this day.

And this these are these are from the memoirs illustrating the history of Jacobinism. If you haven't if you haven't listened to it, it's on our whatever podcast of your choice, whatever Spotify or whatever you want to go to. If you go to the Tree of Liberty thing, we have we have an audio book of this. So the order will be enabled to make discoveries of every kind, to form new systems, and to give on all subjects irrefragable proofs of its labors and its immense fund of science, and the public will give it credit for being in possession of all human knowledge. Lest any of the profane, which is us, they're calling us the profane, should partake of this honor, or that any one of the members should not direct these sciences toward the object of Illuminism. That our worthy co-operators may be divested of the... may not be divested of the glory of their labors.

Every new principle laid down, machine invented, or discovery made, shall forever bear the name of its inventor, that his memory may be revered by future ages. Page 536. I highly recommend listening to the audio book. The book in its entirety is almost 900 pages. So to break that down a little bit, so the conspiracy... Read it anyway. Read it anyway, yeah. So let's break it down a little bit. So the conspiracy works to control and create all science, technology, and history. Hold on real quick. Samantha asked to explain. So I don't know, Samantha, you want to chime in real quick and explain what he needs to break down more? I allowed you to unmute. Well, yeah. Can you hear me? Sure can. Okay, so... Why is that important? So I know you're building to all of this. For me, it's really important that you help us before you end. Hopefully there's time. What that means for us today. How they use that to manipulate us very specifically.

Yes, that is very specifically coming at the very end. Awesome. So to sum up the thing, to make it a little bit more understandable from what we just saw. So the conspiracy. works to create and discover all science, technology, and history. Their goal is to ensure the public accepts them as the sole authority on all science and technology. Like if you've ever heard the term like citizen science, you know, that's playing into that. Like, well, we're just citizens. We're not the real deal. Non-conspirators discriminated against. You know, like that man that we just, Dr. Steve Austin. that we just listened to about the mud flows from Mount St. Helen and how that applies all around the world, can apply all the way around the world. He's never going to be recognized by the conspiracies institutions. He's never going to be taught at the University of Utah or BYU. None of that. It's never going to happen. Unless for some reason the public is just so crazy about it, then maybe they'll let a little toe in.

But they won't put his name on it. They'll get a new guy to say it who's one of them. And then they'll give him the credit. That's how they roll. And there's a lot of examples of that, but I don't really have any of them here. Knowledge that is disadvantageous to the conspiracy will be secret. But they will have it for their reference. So the things that they really discover that are true, they will hold on to that. Accomplished conspirators will have the discoveries and adventures named after them. to boost the conspiracy's credibility and leverage with the public. So if you ever see some kind of invention or some kind of natural law that's got a name attached to it, like Samantha brought up with me later, like, you know, Newton's three laws of motion. Like just the fact that Newton is on the front. I mean, there's more to it.

There's more to it to point to it than this. But just the fact that his name is on there. means that he's probably a conspirator. You can say like Einstein's theory of relativity is probably a conspirator just because his name is on it because that's how they work. You got something like the law of angular momentum that doesn't have a name on it. You got Brunelli's principle, Brownian motion. Those guys are probably conspirators just because their name's on it. Otherwise, the conspiracy would just not put that in textbooks. You know, as we know that they control the colleges. There's even, you know, like the utah um uh what is it at the alpha club ben i'm i'm running a blank you know and then we got the guy the other professor in wyoming who did the thing over there um you mean the leadership of the council for relations yeah that's it yeah yeah so like just just right there we have acfr here acfr yeah we've got hardcore uh conspirator establishments being established and guided by local professors. And so accomplished individuals outside of the conspiracy will not have their discoveries and inventions named after them. So this will limit their rivals and give more credibility. I've even talked to people before about kind of discoveries and inventions.

And like, I've heard people who are like, oh yeah, the conspiracy exists and stuff. and they'll say well but if the conspiracy didn't exist we wouldn't have this invention and that invention and that discovery so i mean there is some good coming from them and like that's all about even they are giving into this and my response is if the conspiracy was involved then it would have happened sooner and it would have been better because they everything they do is crap and so to further in on this some examples of supporting lives they they award their friends to give them more credibility conspirators giving conspiracy awards and recognition. Probably a lot of people know about this show.

Disney Presents, Bill Nye the Science Guy. Bill! Bill! I watched him all the time when I was a kid. This show has got like 29 daytime Emmys. And we know how not evil the Emmys are. It was funded in part by the U.S. National Science Foundation, which is a federal entity. Later in life... Bill Nye gets a presidential medal, the presidential medal of freedom for his, quote, contributions to science. And of course, he writes a book about evolution saying it's undeniable. And of course, it's a New York Times bestseller, which is not that tag is literally just a decision. It has nothing to do with sales. So I'm going to give you a little bit of examples of the conspiracy altering history. So these are the Michigan relics. Most of them were discovered, I believe, in the last half of the 1800s. There are a collection of slate and copper imbued with silver, which is how the copper naturally was in the area. So we got slate tablets and copper silver tablets. And so if we look on the left here, we have Noah's Flood on the top left. You've got, you know, all the animals, the Eye of Providence. Below that you've got the flood, people drowning, buildings underwater. The third layer, you've got Noah's Ark. You've got this calendar, which turns out to be 40 days and 40 nights.

It's the four rows of 10. i have providence again and uh maybe a little rainbow there and then you've got the ship on land all the animals coming out of it so and this this was found in michigan and these relics uh they were in the 1800s and the very early 1900s people were building more roads and doing building basements in their homes and people were finding uh They were getting into graves, old Indian graves, and they actually found giant skeletons during this time. The Smithsonian gobbled all that up and got rid of it because people didn't know any better. They'd call the Smithsonian and be like, hey, whoa, this thing needs to be preserved. And the Smithsonian would be like, oh, we're coming over to get it. And then it'd never be seen again, never displayed. And then you're like, well, where is it? It's in records that you came and got it because there was other smaller museums that would donate their collections to them when they were done with them.

They're like, oh, we don't know where it is. It's just crazy. And so we have on the right here, you know, we've got one of the criticisms why the Book of Mormon they claim isn't true is because there were no bows. Like the Indians didn't have bows prehistorically. But here we are. We've got this old tablet from a burial mound. They call them the mound builders. You know, we've got. Probably Nephites on the left because they look a bit more armored and a little less naked than the guys on the right. We've got the spears. And they've got both. And even here in the bottom right, this looks like an image of a temple. And we've got the cherubims on each side. Looks a little Egyptian. In the middle, we've got a cross and the snake wrapped around it. It's possible this is Lucifer and Jesus. diametrically opposed brothers and maybe the bottom left looks very much like the story of moses i would think and so they these were starting to be documented in 1846 uh lots of documentation from over 27 different counties in the state and some estimates are over 30 000 of these type of relics found these are just a tiny slice of some of the more interesting ones Oh, somebody drew on the thing. Okay. Oh, Christ in Hebrew. Yes, that's one of the other things about these tablets.

I'm glad whoever did that. So that is cuneiform, is the writing, which really comes from the East. And so that's another thing to say, well, people came over from over there and they keep writing Yahweh in cuneiform. which is the Hebrew name for Jesus. And so the first appearing, being documented in 1846 from many, many different sources, as much as even more than 30,000. But if you search the internet and you go to FAIR, which is the official, unofficial opinion outlet of the church, question, are the Michigan artifacts evidence for the Book of Mormon? The Michigan artifacts or Michigan relics are a group of artifacts produced by hoaxers in the late 19th century.

They do not provide any evidence for the Book of Mormon. And in a presentation earlier this year, given by Wayne May, who is also a corporate church member, he actually got these are these are pictures of his presentation screenshots from his presentation so they're not the best quality so he's got much better quality um things i didn't have time to really try to get better quality images so in his presentation he it took him five years so because what happened in the 1960s i there were three different collections of these things but starting in the 1960s um there was some some like the savage and something collection and and some other places and they donated these to the church because they're like you know people getting old they're like i don't know what to do with them and you guys should be interested in them right we just want them preserved and and you know and studied etc etc and so starting in 1960 they got a large collection many thousand uh thousands of these things and all these pictures you have are from the church's collection and But the church wouldn't display him.

They just would not let anyone see him. And now they even say that there are hoaxes. And he said, this is why the church jettisoned the artifacts. Because they asked the scholars, what do we do? And they said, send them back. Because they didn't want to display him. So they asked somebody else, what do we do? And so they're asking conspirators, what do we do? And so they ended up sending them to the Michigan State University. who then put them under lock and key and hasn't let anyone look at them. And he believes that there's a bunch in Canada because, you know, Canada is just across the lakes from where all these are found. So why wouldn't there be? He goes, I don't know what's in Canada because the University of Toronto won't let me in because I'm not a PhD. Okay. So I'm going to show you another short video. It's about five minutes. And this is a sample of evolution propaganda for the cultural side.

And then it's probably going to take us three minutes to get through. The rest of the presentation will be done. So we'll be done in less than 10 minutes. Mutation. It is the key to our evolution. it has enabled us to evolve from a single-celled organism into the dominant species on the planet this process is slow normally taking thousands and thousands of years but every few hundred millennia evolution leaps forward The multiverse can be likened to a bubble bath. Our universe is nothing but one bubble, but there are other bubbles. When two bubbles collide, that could merge into a bigger bubble, which could be the Big Bang. In fact, that's what probably the Big Bang is. or perhaps a bubble fissioned in half and split off into two bubbles. That could be the Big Bang. Nothing is impossible within the multiverse, and those that manage to explore it find themselves traveling betwixt worlds of the utmost wonder and perplexity. in the comics the multiverse exists as the spheres of reality outside that of earth 616 or the core marvel timeline simply put earth 616 is the definitive marvel universe with every other parallel universe existing as an alternate reality okay so evolution is a bunch of nonsense but you know how does it affect you so it is it's taught in schools both high and low education it's constantly referred to in the newspaper if you're it just it's always like whoa since man was an ape you know it's just evolution of this the evolution of that they always talk about it the entertainment industry is just so much stuff built around it social theories are built around it especially about like marriage um and gender um because that's really the you know the family is really the core nucleus of society you know good families make a good society corrupt families make a corrupt society so they they must be oh you know you just you don't need to get married you know it's it's a child you know a village to raise the child you know we just no no no you know just all kinds of blatant nonsense like that.

And evolution is one of the tools to remove the rationale in an individual's mind that their rights are above the government's authority. That's really where all this comes around. So in the natural order of things, God is the giver of our rights, individual rights. All of our rights come directly from god to each individual and the government is below those rights so it's the government in its proper place it only exists to secure rights and privileges but evolution says there is no god and so without god in the individual's mind the the rationality for rights the morality of that it disappears it becomes it becomes much more subject to the opinions of man because there isn't a higher authority so what does that really do if there's no god and really just the conspiracy is above those rights and there is no government because a proper government a government only exists to protect rights and privileges and so you don't have it you have you have tyranny you have anarchy you have lack of government So that's really what it is all about. It's all about, so it has zero evidence, and evolution is an anti-Christ religion.

What the heck is going on? Hold on. I don't know why it's not showing up. Okay, literally the biggest point that's the end of the presentation is not showing up. Hold on. This is so lame. Hey, while you're doing that, I just want to mention one quick thing. A while back, several years back, I met a dude named David Barker. David Barker wrote a book called Science and Religion. And I recommend everybody find a copy. In that book, he's LDS. But in that book, he goes through and he investigates all these different scientific methods. He goes into detail about carbon dating, like you talked about. He talks about the fraud that exists in tree rings, how that's fraudulent science as well. It's a couple hundred pages long. The whole thing is excellent. It'll blow your mind because a lot of things, just like what Micah presented here tonight, a lot of things that you probably take for granted at this moment as true science are not.

There's just a lot of fraudulent stuff. been foisted on us science and religion by david barker so i have no idea why this last one isn't showing up but evolution was invented to destroy christianity and therefore freedom and and it's a social it's a social construct for that that was really that was really irritating that it didn't show up anyway but you now have it and this concludes my saga okay well thank you i'm glad we're able to get that wrapped up Carmen, before we sign off, go ahead. You had a comment? On the minutes. There you go. What's that? The last part I got was evolution is an anti-Christ religion. I didn't get anything before that. Evolution was invented to destroy Christianity. That was what I wanted. That's the very last. It's supposed to be the biggest point. I don't know why I decided to just not exist, even though it's... marked as supposed to show up when I click. Okay, say it again. Invented to destroy Christianity.

What was the other one? And therefore freedom. Because anything anti-Christianity is anti-freedom. And anything anti-freedom is anti -Christianity. Because they are tied together. The only way that you can be free is under God's laws. Okay. Thank you so much, Micah, for putting that together. I really appreciate it. Let's go to have a closing prayer. And then if anybody has any questions for or comments for Micah, we'll do that after the prayer. And then we'll have open forum for a few minutes as well. But probably not too long because we're already so late. But let's go ahead and have a closing prayer. Rod, would you say that for us?

Heavenly Father, we are grateful for this information that we've been able to learn and discuss tonight. We're thankful for Micah's efforts. to present them to us and the research that he did and we pray for thy spirit to be with us at all times and help us to discern the truth and light in the darkness that surrounds us please help us to have an open mind to those things that we may all currently accept that are fraudulent so that we can reject those things and only embrace those things that are true and right that will bring us to a proper understanding of how things really are and were and are to come And we say these things in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

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