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Member Training – Conspiracy Media Controlling The Narrative

Posted by Ben McClintock, Tuesday, 30 Sep 2025. Training held Monday, 29 Sep 2025.

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Okay. Our Father in heaven, we're thankful for all the blessings that God has given us. We're thankful for this time that we're living in, that we can see the work and the gospel coming closer to thee, but the kingdom of God through the politics coming closer to thee. We pray for thy guidance and the Holy Ghost to help us in implementing the things that thou would have us do. We ask for these favors and blessings in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen.

Thank you very much. Okay, Carmen, if you give us the minutes for last week, that'd be great. I'm ready. Hang on. This thing got messed up a little. Okay. Tree of Liberty Society minutes for Monday, September 22nd, 2025. The opening prayer was offered by Mark. Oh, excuse me. About the Spring City event. Rod reported that there were about 40 people at the event. It was a good presentation. In the first 10 minutes, there was an audible gasp from the crowd immediately after they became aware of being swindled by the conspiracy. One lady realized the Pledge of Allegiance was unconstitutional. There was zero opposition from anyone. He sold many books. Ben sold many books. Ben said that the information version was going to be made into a boot camp. Denise Croft said it was a very good presentation and it was good to meet like -minded people. She got four books, gave away three of them, and kept the autographed copy.

She was glad she could meet many people. Mark said that the pledge is a sacred cow. People act as though it is liberty, but it's only symbolism. Ben said that the next day on Tuesday from this meeting was another program in Eagle Mountain, and he invited people to come and to invite others. Denise said the information that was shared was new to her. She feels motivated again, and she said it's tailoring. to learning new information and learning new together. New was valuable and continual learning. Ben launched into training, which the title was Controlled Opposition and the Antichrist. The new aspect was to see the importance and see the bigger picture. The action items from the rest of the... of the meeting were to increase knowledge, build understanding, and build resistance to the conspiracy.

Two, to teach us how to think, not what to think. We're to beware of false prophets and know them by their fruits. Four, Satan is not obvious. Foundation we learn from the scriptures. Number five, those who live godly in Christ shall suffer persecution. Number six, conspiracy will attack its own because it will give them free advertising. Attacks are just as helpful as praise. And number seven, opposition offers acceptable solutions. He encouraged us to read a book, A Pillar of Iron. And number eight. Another action item is to watch for sacred cows being promoted and popularized. Nine, avoid superficial understandings to recognize Christ when he comes. Ten, knowing correct principles makes it harder to be deceived. Eleven, practicing understanding of wolves in sheep's clothing, in government, entertainment, learning, etc., etc. In the question and answer,

Before the closing prayer, Dan talked about counterfeit money. To understand the real money first, then you can detect fake bills. Closing prayer was offered by Sam B. Thank you very much. I'm trying to think if we've got any announcements that need to be covered right now before we get into things. Interesting. We got through the minutes so quickly. And training is actually going to be a little bit longer today, so it gives us extra time to be able to cover those things. Can I quickly comment on a couple things in the minutes? Sure. Yeah, go for it. One is, I don't think we're talking about the Pledge of Allegiance being illegal. Talking about some of its content is not consistent with the principles of the Constitution, but it's not unconstitutional. And then the other thing is... The attacks we're talking about in a minute, they're pretend attacks.

They're pull-punch attacks. That's what they consistently do. Act like they're oppositional, but they're not. The Democrat Party is one of the most important protectors of our president because they're pulling punches all the time if they even throw a punch. So I think that's kind of important to realize. They're pretend punches. Yeah. Okay. What was the title of today's meeting? Today's? What was the title of today's? Conspiracy Media Directing the Narrative. So I'll be showing my screen in a second. But yeah. Oh. We haven't gotten there yet, Carmen. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. No, you're good. Okay. Mark, appreciate that. Carmen. Okay. Well, let's just wanted to encourage folks. Just reminding you about the concepts that are in the member manual. We'll be putting out another video on the member manual very shortly as an additional reminder, as well as a help to guide you and direct you through the application of those things.

As a part of it, again, I want to remind everyone about the importance of growth and helping to... One of the things to help do that is to have the in-person presentations. And so if you have a group or an organization you would like to schedule me to speak with, or if you like yourself would just like to organize one in your home or in your community, please reach out to me and we can schedule those. It's important that it's one of our best ways that we have to be able to grow. And so would love to work with you to do that. Whether that's live and in person or even if it's over Zoom, you know, there's things that we can work out to be able to accomplish that. I would love to work with you to do that. So with that, let's go ahead and get into the bulk of training tonight. Make sure I have all the audio. Okay.

So again, as always, we want to make sure that we are not the reason why we are perishing, right? And so we're making sure that we are reminding ourselves every week, what have we done to increase our knowledge and our understanding and the application of that knowledge so that we can build the understanding of and adherence to the principles that have built free nations to expose the St. Santana conspiracy. And to build an effective resistance to that conspiracy. If we're not doing that, we're not doing our job. So I want to remind everybody for that. So, of course, the corporate media is there to regurgitate what is acceptable. And there's this pretty popular video. It's been shown for a long time. But I think it's a good reminder for us to really understand just the visualization of how. the media is truly controlled.

We are extremely proud of the quality, balanced journalism that CBS 4 News produces. But we are concerned about the trouble and trying to get responsible, one-sided news stories plaguing our country. Plaguing our country. The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media. More alarming, some media outlets publish these same fake stories without checking facts first. The sharing of biased and false news has become all too common on social media. More alarming. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. This is extremely dangerous to our democracy. And that was just one example of one conglomerate that owns stations across the country, putting out not just a similar narrative, but the same exact worded narrative. And it illustrates where, even if it's worded differently, what you're going to see on... Of course, all of the typical networks, ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox News, CNN, but also the supposed alternative channels that are acceptable. So your, what's it called?

Your Charlie Kirk's or your Ben Shapiro's or your Matt Walsh's or your Glenn Beck's. Those are the people out there that are putting out the acceptable, the approved narrative. on the left or the right those are the ones that if you say anything that is different than what those guys are saying that is outside the acceptable narrative and it's not something you're going to see except for in very small um you know situations and so we need to start to understand this approved narrative even when it comes from people we think are maybe on our side i am fox and so we look at this example right here where These same news stations that publish those narratives that I just showed you, they are actually publishing propaganda that was given to them, produced by and paid for by the government to present to the people as news.

So when you're watching television and you're being presented a quote unquote news story. You don't even know if it's actually a paid government piece because, well, the whole thing is paid government pieces or maybe not even paid, but they are establishment lines with a few infomercials that they get paid for disguised as news stories. So here's a clip from a news conference during the W. Bush administration illustrating this point. to promote your agenda. You cited the need for ethical concerns and the need for a bright line between the press and the government. Your administration continues to make the use of video news releases, which are prepackaged news stories sent to television stations, fully aware that some or many of these stations will air them without any disclaimer that they are produced by the government. Controller General of the United States this week said that raises ethical questions. Does it raise ethical questions about the use of government money to produce stories about the government that wind up being aired with no disclosure that they were produced by the government?

There is a Justice Department opinion that says these pieces are within the law so long as they're based upon facts, not advocacy. And I expect our agencies to adhere to that ruling, to that Justice Department opinion. This has been a long-standing practice of the federal government to use... These types of videos. The Defense Department, other departments have been doing so. It's important that they be based upon the guidelines set out by the Justice Department. Now, I also think it would be helpful if local stations then disclosed to their viewers that this was based upon a factual report and they chose to use it. But evidently, in some cases, that's not the case. So anyway. guarantee that's happening by including that language in the prepackaged report yeah i don't know you mean a disclosure george w bush and i well some way to make sure it couldn't air without the disclosure that you believe is so vital uh you know ken i mean there's a there's a procedure that we're going to follow and the local stations ought to there's a deep concern about that ought to tell their viewers what they're watching so the news the the government admits right here that they produce quote unquote, news stories that are supposedly based on facts, as long as they're based on facts and not advocacy.

Well, why would you produce them if you're not advocating for something? If you're the government, you're like, oh, I just have an interest in reporting news and helping out our local news stations. So they have newsroom. No, of course, it's advocacy. They are propagandizing the people on a uniform story. And so when you see things that are talking about what is the FBI doing on an investigation? What is the Justice Department doing on investigation? Just. a couple of those types of examples, it's a good chance that it's actually a paid government piece, a paid piece by the government and given to your local station to air or even CNN or the National Fox News.

And then you have... regular talking heads on the radio that then pick up those so-called news stories. And if it's, you know, for their guy, if they're a Republican and it's a Republican presidency, they're going to, you know, promote it as if it's the God's honest truth, whether they have actually investigated or whether it's the truth or not. And so you have these things being promoted as fact or as just independent reporting when it clearly is not. So you have that aspect of it, the government directly involved in the producing of news materials. And then we have here the U.S. State Department, they're warning about this idea of so-called disinformation, and we need to disarm disinformation. They want to make sure that only the so-called truth, right? The State Department wants to make sure only the truth is put out.

You have this quote from Joe Biden saying, there is truth and there are lies, lies told for power and for profit. And each of us has a duty and responsibility as citizens, as Americans, and especially as leaders, leaders who have pledged to honor our Constitution and protect our nation, defend the truth and defeat the lies. OK, so as we continue on on there. Well, let me just I guess before we continue on, this isn't just a Democrat issue we see now during. this Republican administration, that they are taking the groundwork that's been laid by the Democrats and they are expanding on it, where you have the administration literally suing news stations for reporting something that they're calling lies. But it's, I mean, in one side, it's propaganda to make him look good, but it's setting a precedent where if you do something the government doesn't like, Right. It's it's this thing where they they have this fault, this controlled opposition and this what's it called? Professional wrestling between the government and the controlled press where they pretend like they're at each other's throats and, oh, look, so and so was sued. And now they have to pay the administration some odd million dollars. What is they don't care? They're on the same exact team.

They're all both promoting the same thing. What it's about is making it so. True independent journalists are afraid to report anything that might make the administration look bad because now they're going to be shut down. They're going to now have their bank accounts garnished because they had this lawsuit and they lost. And now they've got to pay the administration millions of dollars. And so to avoid that, they're just not going to say anything because they don't want to have to deal with these types of lawsuits. What role does government have in talking about the truth? Well, according to the First Amendment, they are prohibited from making a law about free speech, about the press, and about the ability of us to be able to report on what we see happening. And so the idea that Congress, the presidency, the judicial can issue rulings. blocking the people from being able to report this is obviously unconstitutional. But of course, as we see normal, as part of the course, they do not care about what the constitution says because they're going to put different things.

That's why the word hate speech is something that now even the Trump administration is putting out there where if you say something that the government doesn't like and it's hate speech, they can shut you down. And so they just called a different kind of speech. It's not free speech. It's now hate speech. And you have both Republicans and Democrats promoting that concept. Further on, the U.S. State Department says disinformation is one of the Kremlin's most important and far-reaching weapons. So now they're making this about Russia. If you are saying things that they don't like, you're obviously a tool of Russia. I don't know why I can't say that. Operationalized the concept of perpetual adversarial competition in the information environment by encouraging the development of a disinformation and propaganda ecosystem. This ecosystem creates and spreads false narratives to strategically advance the Kremlin's policy goals.

There is no subject off limits to this fire hose of falsehoods. Everything from human rights and environmental policy to assassinations. And civilian killing bombing campaigns are fair targets in Russia's malign playbook. Then you have the United Nations through UNESCO. Can you step back just one slide just from there and tell me again what the full line is for perpetual adversarial what? Competition. Thank you. In the environment, in the information environment. by encouraging the development of a disinformation and propaganda system. Thank you. Yep. So you have this hashtag, think before sharing. We need to stop spreading so-called conspiracy theories. And the UN says the COVID-19 pandemic has sparked a worrying rise in disinformation and conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories can be dangerous. They often target and discriminate against vulnerable groups. ignore scientific evidence, and polarize society with serious consequences. This needs to stop. So you see the wording that they're using there. And this is, of course, a government agency.

This is an agency that governments around the world are members of and paying dues to and applying their principles to their own government policies. And so what they say is, again, instead of calling it free speech, they're saying it's disinformation. These are dangerous. And so what we see with big government advocates is they'll say things like silence is violence or things along those lines that equate your words or your lack of words to actually harming others, which is impossible. We've totally forgotten and abandoned the idea of sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me. As an individual, our job is to evaluate information and to decide if it's something we are going to act upon. Information itself is not dangerous. And we cannot be blamed for the way that somebody interprets our information and then acts on it.

Congress shall make no law. That is a key principle that we have to think about when we... these this in the way that they and you're going to see this more and more from both republicans and democrats where they are calling speech dangerous discriminatory hateful and so that way that they can now control what you say if they just put a label on it and so this is one of the videos uh using that link i mean that hashtag think before sharing So now you have the World Jewish Congress teaming up with UNESCO to perpetuate the same lie that talking about the truth about COVID leads to hating groups of people. How would you even link those two things together? What it is designed to do is to say that, oh, because it's the World Jewish Congress, when they say this leads to hate, it's like a dog whistle. Right. What's it?

What's a dog whistle? You blow on a dog whistle and you can't hear it. It's only dogs can hear it. And so what it is, is it's saying that it's a dog whistle, meaning that you're not outright saying it. But everybody knows the implication is that if you are talking about the truth about the fake pandemic, then you are actually like Hitler. You're a Nazi. You want to kill Jews. And so that way they silence. any opposition to what the government is doing because you don't want to be called a nazi you don't want to be like you know accused of of you know doing any of the things that nazis are accused of of doing yes mark yeah they're redefining hate excuse me they're redefining disagreement as hate right and then hate has to be abolished So you have to violate rights, take that away. And this polarizing society, I keep thinking of that cartoon of yours where they're leading the herd, they're leading us into the slaughterhouse.

They want to be sure they get a whole herd into the slaughterhouse because if they stray away, we might see the truth. So we can't disagree. It's polarizing. And it's hate. Yep. Thank you. So we look at the points that they bring out in this video. We can look at when you go to the website for UNESCO and their little information graphics as they put out there. Talking about how are these conspiracy theories dangerous? They identify an enemy and a secret plot that threatens people's lives or beliefs and spark a defense mechanism which can feel... fuel discrimination justify hate crimes and can be exploited by violent extremist groups so if you believe that there is a group of people that are working in secret to threaten your life then you are causing harm to other people and so they want you to not even believe that that could happen because you do not want to be so-called radicalized so ignore the truth so that you don't Well, you don't become one of those people that they, you know, these made up characters that they put out there that responded to the fact that there's a conspiracy to go and hurt people.

And then now they didn't go and hurt people. They spread mistrust in public institutions. So they do not want you to mistrust public institutions. They want you to think that you can trust the government no matter what. Okay. And they spread mistrust in scientific and medical information. discover that academia uh government and media are working together to put out lies on the medical information now you are the one right they just accuse you of what they themselves are doing now you're the dangerous person you're the racist and you're the problem as opposed to the conspiracy that is seeking to destroy the liberty of all mankind and so again discriminatory of course you know you're You're only going to be blaming a certain group of people as a part of it. And so, you know, you don't want to be called a racist if you talk about or an anti-Semite if you talk about the conspiracy.

So you better not even think about that. And then this is watch out. Perceived out groups of society are especially prone to be targets of conspiracy theories, hate speech, and disinformation campaigns. So there's these people called out groups. So this includes people of different origin, religion. or sexual orientation in the context of the fake pandemic, specific groups were frequently falsely blamed for the spread of the virus in Europe, including people of assumed Asian origin, Jews, Muslims, Roma, and people who identify as sodomites. And so, again, you don't want to be an anti-Semite. You don't want to be somebody that's a bigot of some kind.

And so I don't know what these outgroups of society are that they're referring to, probably talking about white religious individuals. But they, you know, if you they are making you question yourself if you recognize that there's a conspiracy because you do not want to be associated with one of these groups. Simon, go ahead. I just realized another way that this line has been used in the right wing. political aspect, this whole line of silence is violence. Charlie Kirk, a quote from him is when the conversation stops, violence begins. It's just another way of saying silence is violence. Yep. That's a good example. Thank you. And they're doing the same thing here where it was traditionally calling people anti-Semites was a tactic of the left. But now you're seeing this Republican administration. you know, saying that they might deport you if you think that if you say that Israel is involved in hurting people in, you know, in what's it called in Palestine.

And so it's this, you know, it's it's they still couch it in left versus right. But it's the same conspiracy pushing both sides. And so that way, the only the approved narrative. gets through and so that's why you will never see you know certain people talking about um groups of people that are engaged in certain behaviors excuse me okay all righty so now we do pre-done pre-bunking and debunking okay pre-bunking is uh stopping the spread of conspiracy theories um is challenging there is No one size fits all approach. It depends on the level of exposure. People who firmly believe in conspiracy theories are extremely difficult to reach all because they actually have the evidence. and you just telling them that you just start engaging in name-calling, they're not going to listen to you very well because they have the actual facts.

So pre-bunking is the idea of trying to get people inoculated against the facts before they learn about it. You need to warn people early on that conspiracy theories exist. Oh, before I even heard the conspiracy, I heard that they exist. So this must be one of those conspiracy theories that I better be aware of. Encourage rational thinking, questioning, and fact -checking against conspiracy exposure, but don't encourage rational thinking, questioning, and fact-checking against the official line. Alert people about the arguments behind the most common COVID-19 conspiracy theories and the key traits of conspiratorial thinking. Suspicion of official accounts. immunity to contrary evidence and reinterpreting random events as part of a broader pattern. So never recognize patterns, never start connecting dots and heaven forbid you suspect a government that has lied to its people for the last 6,000 years is going to continue lying to the people. Okay.

So now we go to debunking the dues. This is what you're supposed to do to debunk people exposing the conspiracy. Focus on the facts you want to communicate, not the myth you want to debunk. So this is that whole thing that I talked about last week with the clip about Ron Paul. Don't talk about the actual threat. If they're talking about it, that means it's okay to talk about. Whether they're attacking it or not, it is okay to talk about. It is acceptable. It is part of the acceptable narrative. So what is not acceptable is what they will ignore and not talk about. Don't focus on the myth you want to debunk. Ignore that. Choose your target, the author, the source, the logic behind the conspiracy theory. So now instead of attacking the message, you attack the messenger because they can't attack the message.

Always state clearly that the information is wrong. Just say it's wrong before quoting the conspiracy theory. Provide a fact -based alternative explanation. If possible, use visual aids. Don't. Don't focus on the conspiracy theory. Don't reinforce it. Again, ignore, ignore, ignore. Don't overwhelm with information. So six things conspiracy theories have in common. It's a secret plot. A group of conspirators supporting evidence. They suggest nothing happens by accident. They assume the world is good or bad. Someone is to blame. Well, if there is a secret plot, are there groups of people, two or more, in secret, working to do something evil? If that didn't happen, then why are there conspiracy laws on the books? Why are people charged with conspiracy? And then heaven forbid you support evidence, right? They have all in common is they want to give you evidence for it. So this is what you need to look out for when, and now I'm being serious, like you as a person trying to, when you're dealing with somebody that is claiming that you should never believe the conspiracy, this is what they are being told and what you need to be aware of. And so that we can start to actually increase our ability to use logic and reason and facts to be able to stand up for the truth and expose the conspiracy.

Now, does the author, right? It's not about does the author have the truth, does the author have the qualifications that the government has given them to say that they're approved? And so what do we know? The government goes after individuals' credentials to silence them. They will remove... their doctorate degrees. They will remove their licensing. They will remove anything that might give them the credibility in the eyes of the people. So now they're saying because they control the qualification awards, then they're telling you to focus only on people that they've qualified. So they're saying only trust our people. The sources are backed by fact-checking sites. So we control these sites. And so we can make sure that that narrative is controlled. So only trust the information we give you. The tone is objective and factual. So it doesn't matter if the things are actually factual. It's not what you said, it's how you said it, right? If anybody's ever heard that argument, they were offended because of how you said something, not what you said. And so this is what they want you to focus on.

And this is the... the way that they are going to get people to stay within their narrative how do conspiracy theories damage and mislead they identify an enemy again then a plot that can fuel discrimination against a group they spread mistrust leading to apathy or radicalization they undermine science and medical advice so what do we see here with these three points of what they call it so it's not just free speech anymore because you're damaging if you're identifying an enemy If you say, here are the conspirators, then now you are engaged in hate speech. And then the next problem that they have is creating mistrust in the institutions, right? This is what I've been saying and about the solution for so long is our job is to do this because they don't deserve to be trusted. They are evil. They are satanic.

And they are openly trying to destroy the Constitution. They admit that. trying to destroy national independence, trying to destroy Christianity. And so they deserve, they are Satanists. So they deserve to be mistrusted. They deserve to not receive our obedience. So that is something that scares them. So I've talked about that before. They're not scared of you voting harder. They're not scared of you going and before the courts to sue. They're not scared of you building understanding. I mean, they are scared of you building understanding. And so that's what they focus on. Nowhere in here do you say, oh my goodness, these dangerous people are trying to get people elected. No, that is not a threat to conspiracy. You identifying who they are, so that way people do not trust them anymore. And it undermines the information that they provided. They are afraid of you understanding the facts. That is the biggest threat. to them because of how a moral person reacts to an increase of understanding. And so that is what they are truly afraid of. Now, how can journalists report on the conspiracy theories?

Because they don't want to mention them specifically. Don't emphasize the conspiracy theories. Don't talk about who they are. Don't talk about what these facts are. Just give us a sweeping broad brush attack. on all of them link all of the conspiracies with aliens shape-shifting lizard people flat earth right just just do a smearing broad brush a brush or you're anti-semitic or racist or whatever reinforce the um the the propaganda that they want put out there using the information that their experts put out there then warn about related conspiracy theories right so that's what they will focus on is This sandwich smear, right? You hate Jews and you expose the government's plot against COVID and therefore you want to gas all Jews. So that's the sandwich smear that they want to continue to put forward. Yes, Simon.

Just another thing that comes to mind is that there's a quote by one of the Rothschilds that said that all conspiracy theories have roots and affect them. It was their quote. What was that? Because he cut out at the beginning. Say it again. I'm just saying that there was a quote from one of the Rothschilds. And giving an interview saying that all conspiracy theories have roots in anti-Semitism or, in other words, racism. Yep, that was a recent. And if we have time in the open forum, I'll find the video and show it because it's pretty recent. Mark, go ahead. Yeah, there's got to be a lot of scientists and detectives that are anti-Semitic then. Because in their job, they have to identify, much of the time, a theory before they can confirm. The conspiracy. One last other thing here is implicit in their statements. And what you've been stating is the false premise that if you're elected to office, you automatically become honest. And the people you appoint are automatically honest. I mean, that is implicit in some of the statements you made.

Yep. Yep. That is their, that is, that's their criteria. Yeah. Government's honest. If you're in government, if you're in academia, everything you say is basically scripture. So be warned that COVID-19 pandemic has seen a rise in harmful and misleading conspiracy theories. Reliable sources of information are essential to counter the spread of conspiracy theories and disinformation. Journalists should report responsibly using verified sources, making sure not to reinforce. Again, ignore. I can't emphasize that enough. They want you to ignore what they are afraid of. And they will attack or praise the things that are acceptable to talk about. So they want you to emphasize core facts. Don't talk about the conspiracy theory. Reinforce the facts in the main text using their information.

Warn about other peripheral conspiracies. So that way they can sandwich smear and then say, build up that straw man and then say why that's misleading. So that way they built up this straw man. You say, oh, I don't want to go to McDonald's today. That means you hate all hamburgers because you don't want to go to McDonald's, a.k.a. you hate hamburgers, right? That is the process of identifying a so-called conspiracy theory that they can build up and debunk. So cities across the country are setting up these conspiracy debunker things. They have rumor stop. where you get the answers you need. You have questions and we believe you deserve timely, accurate information. Rumor stop addresses rumors. Residents have heard about the community and government. If there's a rumor not already addressed, you can request it out. So the government is going to tell you the answer and they're going to debunk the rumor that makes them look bad. We see this happening all over the country, not just one state where they're doing that. Misinformation, disinformation, and malinformation.

That way they can, you know, that's what they're trying to do. And so that way they are the arbiters of what is truth. If it contradicts what the government says, then it's either misinformation, disinformation, or malinformation. It took me so long to get it because I wanted to get the temperature. Okay. So here's, you know, and of course they don't want to talk about the conspiracy, but they will say that they are not part of a conspiracy. is, as I've said many times, a pandemic of the unvaccinated. It's hard. Someone wiser than me said that one of the problems with people who believe conspiracy theories is it's not just enough to stop believing the conspiracy theory, but often it takes you away from your community, the people around you that believe the same way that you do. We love you. We care about you. I promise I'm not part of some grand conspiracy theory. If you don't believe me, if you're a religious person, if you're a Catholic, listen to the Pope who said that this is a moral imperative for everyone to get vaccinated.

If you're a Latter-day Saint, listen to the president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints who said that this is Not just a godsend, but a literal godsend, literally sent from God to bless us. If you're if politics is your religion, then then believe Donald Trump, who was so instrumental in getting this vaccine to us, who got the vaccine himself and who has encouraged others to get the vaccine. OK, so don't believe. So, again, these guys are following the narrative. Don't mention specifics of the conspiracy. Just talk about it in a broad way and then the danger of it, right? The problem with conspiracies is that you lose touch with your community. We love you. We want to help you, right?

The government is there to help you is the line. Our community is there to help you. And if you don't believe me, look at these people that are a part of it. Look at everyone that agrees with me and listen to them, okay? Yes, Alan. I thought that was an Antifa group. I was over in Walmart the other day, and I saw a guy with a mask on. And he asked me a question. I don't ever get hearing. So I asked him to repeat it. He was really upset because I had him repeat the question. And I said something I shouldn't have. I said, well, you're wearing a mask, so you've got low IQ. Maybe you don't have the verbal ability to ask the question. When I see Cox, I have the same feeling.

Yeah. A person with low IQ that just... Well, the problem with these guys is that they're good at acting stupid, but they're diabolically evil. Mark, go ahead. Yeah, remember what Cox just said. What he said was true. He said, I'm not part of a conspiracy theory, but he is part of the conspiracy. That's obvious. Yeah. Yeah. That entire clip right there showed him just in one uncut scene following the line that we get from UNESCO. So how is a Utah governor? My book is all about how does a local governor implement the international conspiracy's talking points? It's a part of it. And then he tells you, hey, look at these other internationalists that are saying the same exact thing. And listen to them if you don't listen to me. And what's the danger of listening to a conspiracy? It is you're against your community.

You are all of a sudden isolated. yourselves from those that are trying to help you. So again, looking at the facts of what's going on is a danger. So they're trying to equate free speech to dangerous actions, to harming other people, and then pointing to the experts, the predetermined experts that only are acceptable to the establishment. Okay, Deseret News again. This local news station, right? This is just Utah. And somehow they are following the orders from UNESCO. The weaponization of doubt. American science is under attack. Who benefits? I maintain that the reason we live in an age in which there is so much science denial about the climate, COVID-19, and so much else. I just think it's so funny, right? Three years after this article is released, how much information is now even mainstream? that just destroys everything that they're talking about is not because it is some sort of accident or mistake that false information leaks onto the internet. So now they're saying that, look at this, don't listen to the conspiracy because there's a conspiracy putting out the information about the conspiracy.

So they're equating the people exposing them as conspirators. It is instead the result of a deliberate campaign of deception and falsehood to mislead us. So if I were to say that same exact thing against them, they're saying I am weaponizing doubt. There are forces at work who want us to believe false things about the climate and COVID, about evolution and vaccines and GMOs. global warming that is causing the ice caps on Mars to melt, the fake pandemic that we came from monkeys and we're supposed to love vaccines and love GMOs. Not because it serves our interest, but instead because it benefits the interest of the people who are creating and spreading these falsehoods. So we're from the government, just like Cox says, we're here to help you. We're trying to do the right thing. But these other bad guys, right?

Science denial is not an accident. These things are happening on purpose. But if I were to say what they're doing isn't happening on accident, now I'm an anti-Semite. Now I'm a racist. Now I'm trying to cause harm to others. I'm dangerous because I am weaponizing doubt. People don't wake up one day wondering whether the California forest fires were due to a Jewish space laser, right? So here's the fake, right? Here's the straw man. No one's claiming that there's such a thing as a Jewish space laser. Now, they're talking about there is evidence for a, what's it called, directional weapon. That's just a fact. But you can actually dismiss that fact by saying, if you look at the facts of the government's directional weaponry, now you're an anti-Semite because you believe in a Jewish space laser.

Or if Bill Gates puts microchips into their COVID vaccine. So again, right, these straw men to say, oh, if you believe that the government's doing these things, this is where you're at. Those are the results of deliberate propaganda campaign that is meant to create doubt and distrust. Of course, to the person who is going in the wrong direction, you might wonder why it's worse that the mistake was deliberate. Yet, as you can see in my original example, it's because the consequences can be quite terrible for the person who is being misled, depending on the stakes of the lie. The difference between driving to Wellesley and turning around versus driving to Wellesley and getting carjacked is not trivial. Imagine asking a scientist why fraud is worse than error. They'll give you a funny look. Anyone who has ever done a little science...

How do you, done science? That is hard enough without having to deal with people who are cheating. Of course, even mistakes in science aren't really welcome, but at least you might be able to learn from error. But what is the point of building upon someone's work when even they know it isn't true? And I submit that the same holds with the distinction between misinformation and disinformation. It matters why you're driving the wrong way. Okay. And so that gets into, he's making an actual great point, but you need to apply it the other way, right? When people say, well, you know, so-and-so, he just doesn't understand what's going on, or he's a part of a conspiracy. It is important to understand why you're going the wrong way, because it depends on the solution. We have to understand that there is a conspiracy. Some years back, a few researchers found that all science deniers, right? Science denier, that's a term. That started with Holocaust denier.

So that way, if you are against science, you are the equivalent of someone that wants to gas Jews. Reason in the same way. This is not to say that the content of their beliefs is all the same, or that if you're a science denier about one thing, that you're necessarily a science denier about everything. Rather, it means that whether the topic is climate denial, flat earth, anti-vax, anti-evolution, or something else, right? You're going to do the sandwich smear. All science deniers follow the same flawed... reasoning strategy, which is cherry picking evidence, belief in conspiracy theories, engagement in illogical reasoning, reliance on fake experts, right? They don't have the credentials that we approve of, belief that science has to be perfect to be credible. So they are saying, don't trust us, right?

Now that we are three years later and the government has actually said, oh, the vaccine's not so safe and effective. Don't give it to these age groups that we said it was safe and effective for. So now they have an out where, oh, we're not perfect, but we're still credible. And so they have the out. But if anybody out there believes in flat earth or shapeshifting lizard people, now all of a sudden the entire idea of conspiracy fact is thrown out the window. You can stop a disease by treating the sick, but also by removing. the pump handle that is getting everyone infected in the first place. One way to do this is to pre-bunk false beliefs by publicizing the flawed reasoning strategy that all science deniers use to arrive at them. So there's no reasoning, right? Flawed reasoning strategy. They're just saying lumping everything together with anti-Semitism, flat earth, shape-shifting lizard people. That's the pre-bunking, right? Oh, Everybody that believes this, believes this other thing.

That they are victims, that they are doing someone else's bidding without even realizing it. I'm not saying all scientific disinformation on the internet has come from a Russian troll farm, but some of it did. Again, trying to throw it all out the window without actually looking at the facts. Just saying, oh, look at that. It came from disinformation people, so don't believe it. Yeah, Rod, go ahead. I was going to say that that last line of the top paragraph there also is suggestive of conspiracies too, right? Doing something, someone else is bidding without even realizing. But anyways, just pointing that out. Yeah, it's an excellent point. And so that's an important thing, right? They're, again, once again, accusing us of doing what they themselves are the ones doing. The first thing to do is to recognize the real problem that we are up against, that it is not all due to misinformation, but instead disinformation. Someone is doing this on purpose. There's a conspiracy, they say.

But I thought conspiracies were dangerous. Well, only the conspiracies that they identify. But when they're blamed of being a part of a conspiracy, then we're a Russian bot that is trying to get you to kill Jews. We must face this and not hide behind euphemisms or the reluctance to name names. It is time to stop asking merely why do people believe such crazy stuff and instead ask who wants them to believe it. We are in an information war, and the first step to winning an information war is to admit that it's well underway. That's what our side doesn't understand. Even those of us that, you know, we come on training and we're like, yeah, I believe that there's a conspiracy and that there's your combinations. But we really failed to realize because if we did realize it fully, we would recognize the principles and identify better those people that want you to believe the acceptable narratives. Who promoted the acceptable narratives? We have to start recognizing this.

They themselves are saying we are at war, which means they're at war with those trying to tell the truth. And so what are they willing to do in this information war? And they're saying the first thing is we have to admit it. And I say that's exactly right. We do have to admit it, but recognize who the enemy is. And so it's really easy to control these things, right? You see the Deseret News, supposedly a local news station, but somehow, They are following, word for word, the outline laid out by UNESCO. 1917, Representative Oscar Calloway enters into the congressional record detailing J.P. Morgan hiring 12 high-ranking news managers who were given the task to, quote, determine the most influential newspapers in America, how many outlets to control generally the policy of the daily press of the United States, And that they would only need to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers. Okay, so that's in 1917. Fast forward 110 years, basically, roughly 108 years.

And they only needed 25 back then. But what happened was you have this propagation, the self-propagation where this method, right? They just determined the most influential newspapers in America. You put a controlled person at the top of those 25 papers. So that way they don't have to control every single reporter. They just control the narrative. How is the story going to be told? What stories are we going to put in? What stories are we going to leave out? What conclusion are we going to make sure that everyone reading the article has? So you don't have to be a part of the conspiracy to write an article that fits your boss's agenda. You just have to know what your boss wants and then do it because you want to keep your job. And then, you know, most people don't have enough thinking involved to be able to actually question why they're just like, oh, he is an expert in his field. He knows what he's doing. This is how you do it. And so they don't second guess it.

And so, but then, and then you follow that 110 years later, and now you have all of the newspapers following that are, well. Now we have these conglomerates where you have even more than 25 papers, of course, and television stations and radio stations that are all a part of the conspiracy. And their little useful idiots are able to implement their program knowingly or unknowingly. Mark, yes. Yes, that history you just gave there is important, but it's also important to know that a conspiracy already controlled to a great extent. the media, the newspapers in 1917. They just wanted more control. Because one example of that, I think it was 1917, when the Germans were trying to get ads and papers all across America, hundreds and hundreds of them, telling them the Lusitania is a warship. Do not report it.

Only one newspaper in the whole country is willing to print that truth. And I think that really shows you how controlled the newspapers were even at that time. Yeah. And then you forward to the 1960s and you had every controlled newspaper saying Fidel Castro was a freedom fighter. He wasn't a communist. And then you only had a small group of people that were willing to say what the truth was. But because the establishment controlled basically what everybody in the country read, they were all under the impression that Castro was a reformer and not a communist. And so then you fast forward that even more, another 50, 60 years. 70 years, and we're at the situation where we are today, where all of the stations are promoting the same exact thing. And so, of course, the front group to determine the policies was the Council on Foreign Relations.

The Washington Post even talks about this. The executive editor, managing editor, and foreign editor of the New York Times are members, along with... of such large newspapers as the wall street journal la times weekly magazines network television executives and celebrities dan rather tom brokaw jim jim lair for example and various columnists among them charles kratheimer which you if you watch fox news he's on there all the time william f buckley george will jim hoagland so this is in 1993 those were the big names back then do we think that the this has changed right is that i submit to you that not If it has changed, it's even more entrenched than it was in 1993. You look at Talking Heads. I'm trying to think of the names. There was a guy on CNN, but he had an English accent. I'm having a blank on his name.

You have that girl that was blonde. She was on Fox. Then she left and went to NBC and was a liberal. And now everybody thinks she's a conservative again. And so you see all these characters and they change their character just to fit the narrative at the moment. But it shows that they are part of the conspiracy to be able to promote the controlled narrative. So first Amy and then Mark. Go ahead, Amy. Okay. Mark, go ahead. Yeah. Once I noticed on McNeil Lair on public television, they were interviewing three people. Very seldom they would only interview people separately, but this time they were both interviewing. And everybody in that room was a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Absolutely. And that same organization, right, is in every single administration.

Even the Trump administration is filled to the brim. I hope this doesn't shock you, filled to the brim with CFR members. So, Amy, did you hear you catch on? No, I was just trying to unmute. You're good. I just, you mentioned Dan Rather. I think he's the one that has the quote that says, People say that a world government wouldn't be in place until Christ comes. And if it, if an attempt to do that, I might be botching it, is the work of the devil. And if that's, if that's the truth, then I'm proud to sit here at the right hand of the devil. Wow. Rockefeller had a quote. I don't, I haven't heard that one specifically. No, that's, that's, if you find it to me, that's pretty telling. Yeah.

So just real quick, because we are over time, let's keep going. The membership of these journalists and the council, however, they may think of themselves as an acknowledgement of their active and important role in public affairs and their ascension into the American ruling class. They do not merely analyze and interpret foreign policy for the United States. They help make it. So we look at corporate members. You have BlackRock. So right there, that's an important one, BlackRock, because you'll hear people like Glenn Beck talk about BlackRock and the things that they're involved with. But won't they tell you? Who is BlackRock? a part of.

When you hear BlackRock, you should think Council on Foreign Relations because that's really where it's at. But they will not tell you that that's what's really going on because people like Glenn Beck have CFR members working with them and for them. And so it's important. It's all right there on their website. If you want to know if the company you like is a part of this internationalist agenda and if your money is going to support the New World Order, that's a great place to start. Right. All of our, you know, favorite to, you know, people in news stations that we hate, they're all a part of the same agenda. And it's important for us to realize that these people are spouting the same line.

That's why you see them all word for word saying the same thing that we get from UNESCO. So we are information war. And the first step is to admit that it's well underway. So we need to understand this is our call to action. If all media outlets are talking about it for good or for evil, you need to know that it's a distraction, that whatever it is that they're saying is a lie, and it is something that they want you to pay attention to, and that's something that you should not believe, and it is something that you should ignore. That doesn't mean you're ignorant to it. It just means you do the same thing, right? What did they do? What did they say to do to people exposing the conspiracy? Don't talk about it. And that's what we are supposed to be doing. We don't give lip service to the things that they are saying to ourselves. We don't promote it.

We don't talk about it. We ignore it. It's not something that we should be focused on because they want us focused on it, which means it's something to make sure that we are distracted from the real solution, which is exposing them more and so that they lose legitimacy. That's what they're afraid of. And that's what we should be working on. Not the things that they're telling us to be focused on, not the things that they're telling us to talk about. So with that, I appreciate you being patient with this longer training tonight. But let's go ahead and have a closing prayer, and then we'll get into open forum. And I see that there's a hand raised, but I don't see it anymore. So let's have a closing prayer. Brittany, would you get that for us? If you could unmute if you're available. Yeah. Awesome. Thank you. I'm here. Okay. All right.

Our kind, gracious Heavenly Father, we are grateful for our opportunity to be able to meet together with like-minded individuals and to be able to expose and learn and be prepared to be able to seek out more like-minded, to be able to help our community grow and to be able to... share the knowledge that we have all learned with those around us so that we can help to stop complying and be able to expose the truths that are hidden behind darkness. And we ask that thou may help us to be able to feel thy spirit with us at all times so that we might be able to seek out the truth and be able to know the truth for ourselves and that we may not be led astray by the conspiracy that is among us. And we are grateful for the opportunity to be able to meet together. And we say these things humbly in the name of thy son, Jesus Christ. Amen.

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